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 No.76893[Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

Part 13!

How do I join?

Post:
* a link to your website
* a 240x60 banner of your website

(Optional):
* Post a link to your RSS feed on your site. Communicate with other Lains by responding to articles on their RSS feeds with responses on your RSS feed. If you're both subscribed to each others feeds, you'll see each others responses and can long-form communicate back and forth in a decentralized way.
* Share your tech stack. What tools are you using to build your site, resources for learning how to build sites, guides on self hosting and shared hosting, etc, etc. Help new anons set up their own sites and join the webring.
* Share and start projects. What are you working on or want to work on? Others may want to collaborate.
* Talk to people throughout the net. Some useful protocols and tools for communicating: Email, IRC, XMPP, Matrix, Forums.

More Links:
* Prior thread (12): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/73638.html
* Prior prior thread (11): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/70358.html
* Combined Webring RSS OPML: https://0x19.org/lainring/opml.php

Notable Events From Prior Threads:
* New Digital Era's Lainchan Spring Web Festival (https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/73638.html#q75738)
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 No.76911>>77069

>>76886
> I have added your site.
i like your site, and i browse it from time to time to get inspiration. So, thank you for including mine.

>I might eventually add a locale field to help readers find things in their native language.

that would be great! i think theres another person besides me who writes and publishes in ar.

>Not sure how I feel about non-english. I like japanese because it fits the anime forum attitude.

absolutely, it's completely understandable. and rest assured, the site does embrace Japanese (see logo) and the internet culture, also i translate different stuff from jp and en to ar sometimes

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 No.77061

>>77035
the webring has no rules (since decentralized), but some members may not include your site

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 No.77069

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>>76911
>i like your site, and i browse it from time to time to get inspiration. So, thank you for including mine.
Thanks :)
>that would be great! i think theres another person besides me who writes and publishes in ar.
Scraped for the `<html lang=` tags, only 53/167 in my list are using the lang attribute. I added locales if you hover over the banners.
>absolutely, it's completely understandable. and rest assured, the site does embrace Japanese (see logo) and the internet culture, also i translate different stuff from jp and en to ar sometimes
translating is good work. Localization is important
>>76916
I either took a screenshot then vectorized it to scale it up or used accessibility tools to get a mega screenshot to scale down. Inkscape and gimp are all you need.
>>76989
you can use imagemagick for this too. Name your files in a way that you can sort them (ie numbers). Something like
<code>
$ convert -resize 50% -delay 10 -loop 1 $(ls *.png | sort) out.gif
</code>
>>77035
>lewd mascot
this is fine
>actual hentai
sometimes I mistype /g/ as /h/. I imagine I would have the same feeling clicking on your link.

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 No.77071

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>>76893 (OP)
I while back, I toyed with the idea of a Catholic zine that didn't conform to the whole groyper, milquetoast conservative, or popesplainer liberal cringe discourse that we see online. Didn't do much about it, just two half-assed articles, but I might get back into it.
https://tvrrisebvrnea.neocities.org/

I'll add a links section to it.

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 No.77168>>77170

>>77085
I like the design, I read a few posts and I feel some affinity with your style and thoughts. I'll give it a read from time to time, it's what I'd like for my own blog. which I'm not sharing, this is not a transaction.

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 No.77170

>>77168
>I like the design, I read a few posts and I feel some affinity with your style and thoughts.
Thanks, I'm glad.

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 No.77185>>77186>>79836

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Hi Frens! Long time lurker, First time poster. Here's my site!
https://digitalvoid.xyz/img/digitalvoid_240x60.png
>Probably going to change button artwork in the future, but my dir isn't going to change.
Enter the event horizon = https://www.digitalvoid.xyz/

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 No.77186

>>77185
Hey fren!
Welcome to the Lainring, I've added you to my copy of the ring (https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/) Glad to hear you're feeling better, keep on writing!

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 No.77241

>>77203
https://articexploit.xyz/ here, always wanted to have a nice properly designed banner. Would love to see what you can come up with, I might end up using it.

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 No.77262>>77451

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>>77204
Done, sorry for taking so long. It's just below the articles. https://tvrrisebvrnea.neocities.org/

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 No.77372>>77388>>77451>>78071

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How come most of you don't use Github for hosting? I just made a site there, and it's so convenient to just git push your changes and immediately see your changes. All without needing an account on another website or use additional tools. Not sure about custom domain availability via them, though...

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 No.77388>>77389

>>77372
Like the other replies said, github is gay, but also because neocities is more website focused and more professional, so to speak, also, on neocities you get some visibility that you wouldn't github with the tags and stuff

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 No.77389

>>77379
>>77381
>>77388
Decided to see if I can get the same convenience by using neocities. I see that they have a CLI tool (https://neocities.org/cli) but it requires me to use Ruby Installer. I don't want to download it just to get a single CLI tool. Is there a standalone binary I can just add to $PATH? Not a fan of blindly installing any software I'm pointed towards and bloat my system.

>>77382

Don't talk to me like I'm a kid. I know about their malicious practices. I just don't care most of the time, and have little to no energy after work to bother learning unix-specific things.

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 No.77409

>>77407
>I've decided to just stick to drag-and-dropping all files to neocities for the time being, so there's no longer a need for a CLI-based solution.
> Still, thank you for the offer. I wasn't expecting the kind gesture. You've brightened up my day a little.
No problem, I'm glad that your existing solution works. This conversion did get me a bit curious though about ruby tooling. If in the future you ever want to try packing the script, this tool will probably work (and for multiple platforms): https://github.com/pmq20/ruby-packer.

The tools for building single file executables for interpreted languages like ruby, python, and perl often take the same approach: Bundle the interpreter, modules/dependencies, and script code into a self extracting executable. When running, the executable extracts the files to a temporary directory, runs the interpreter, loads the modules, and executes the script.

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 No.77451

>>77208
>bring back the joy of computing
I like this and I find it funny
Thanks! I have added it to my website footer. Let me know if/how you want me attribute it to you.
>>77216
>>77262
added
>>77372
git for vcs: this sparks joy
git for anything else other than a standalone vcs: this makes me want to stab a screwdriver into my own eye
I still use git(lab) but not as my hosting provider.
Setup looks like php test server on a local machine, make commits, ssh to server then run a script that pulls from multiple repos.
A vps is cheap and fun. Server side scripting, databases, tor, i2p, being able to ssh to my server and run irssi within tmux as a crude irc bouncer, playing with inetd, learning more about web stacks, doing funny pranks based on user agent strings, etc are all reasons I prefer a vps over everything else.
I would encourage everyone to assemble a web stack in a vm or on a spare computer sometime. It is a fun exercise that is identical to assembling a web stack on a vps.
>>77379
>why one would host on neocities
certain html tutorials still recommend it. The 'community' atmosphere appeals to an entirely different audience. I also suspect that a drag and drop ui without version control is less intimidating to those of us who have *not* been webshitters and console cowboys for the majority of our lives.

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 No.77457

>>77216
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS,
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS,
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
GOOD TIDINGS WE BRING TO YOU AND YOUR KIN.
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

sorry i had to do it

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 No.77495

>>77461
Generalisation != hyperbole.
>I agree with your view of 'the humans' novel
Good to know that I'm not the only one.

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 No.77496>>77505

>>77216
I was having a good time reading some of your posts and landed on "Summer is the Worst Season". I was nodding inside to all of your points about summer and enjoying someone to share my distaste for the season. And then you dropped the bomb: "The best season is spring. Spring is perfect". There I was, speechless and betrayed, struggling to read further in disbelief. "...snow is overrated" hits like a dagger. You preferred the season of unbearable smells, unstable weather and allergy to the purity and endless beauty of the snowy winter.

In all seriousness, I wish you add RSS to your site. You're probably living in some warmer place and just do not have the real winter. Yes, it's hard and dangerous, but with this price comes the unrivaled grace.

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 No.77505>>78619

I should reword some of my posts (especially the older ones) so I sound like less of an idiot.
>>77496
https://neocities.org/site/alephzero.rss is the RSS feed automatically generated by Neocities.

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 No.77530

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Throughs? Was thinking of hosting this on neocities as a resource for newbies. I haven't finished it yet cuz I want to know what you guys think of it so far and if you're ok with the concept

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 No.77642

>>77531
the more the merrier!

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 No.78033>>78042>>78064>>78541>>88721

hello everyone, I have redesigned https://newdigitalera.org/
It is still incomplete, but has most of the old content. I will be adding new things soon, including a possible webnovel.
You can find the old version here, archived forever https://old2022.newdigitalera.org/
I hope you like it! Let me know what you think. I am aware that it doesn't work on smartphones, but is is what it is. On the other hand, it is much more difficult to scrape fot AI and such, due to how it works.

Also, is there any effort to make a new web festival for this summer? If not, I can look into hosting it again!

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 No.78042

>>78033
I really like the new redesign. The faux desktop environment is something that tickles my fancy, especially since that's a minor interest of mine.

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 No.78064

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>>78033
fancy, some of the symbols are a bit too fancy for my fonts but I like the functionality. always thought the desktop sites were neat

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 No.78071

>>77372
A cheap VPS is five loons, I'd rather learn how to host a webserver privately than let Microsoft use my gorgeous html to train an Ai.

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 No.78473>>78477

>>78472
usually mine and a couple others are the most updated,
https://articexploit.xyz/ring/
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/
https://foreverliketh.is/#2-lainchan-webring
we all have ways to download all the banners with a list of sites and their links, not sure about opml files specifically tho.

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 No.78477

>>78473
Thank you so much and great website! I'm new, loving all this

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 No.78522>>78525

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>>78519
you do understand you will always have to keep this the most up to date of all rings, if people are intended to use this as main reference. you're already missing denpa-chan

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 No.78525

>>78522
Most 'rings' have always skipped imageboards (like 28chan and leftychan), so adding Denpa-chan doesn't quite make sense. If a majority of others decide to include Denpa-chan, I might reconsider and follow suit.

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 No.78541

>>78472
>>78033
>* Combined Webring RSS OPML: https://0x19.org/lainring/opml.php
been /o/blivious lately. I have been playing My Summer Car but in real life. 0x19 meta has become "hack together a kludge every day so you can get to work". At some point there will be car soykaf on 0x19. Cars and computers are the same. I really do think that "fix your own car" is in line with hacker culture.
I need to learn more about ECU programming or at least tuning but first I need an ECU I can brick without consequence.
>>78191
>only a subset of lainring
I would like to see more lains
added
>>78202
please add lains
>>78469
I like seeing other people at least trying to build their own thing. It makes me happy despite the hopeless situation.

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 No.78550>>78552>>78553

>>78548
So everyone who uses the webzone uses and approves of it? Don't you think you're a little too old to still be peddling or falling for the fallacy of attributing the actions of individuals to entire communities? Especially in the age of imageboards and completely untraceable anonymous actors? Are you responsible for every stupid thing said by a poster you don't like by virtue of posting here on lainchain?

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 No.78552

>>78550
the admins approve and encourage it. Yes, this is indicative of an entire community, anyone who doesn't like rubbing digital shoulders with raiding scum would have moved to a better website. It would be completely different if people crated raid threads by themselves.

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 No.78553>>78557

>>78550
>So everyone who uses the webzone uses and approves of it.
The personal - and unverifiable - feelings of the individual users of that website don't come into it. Quit moving the goalposts You may as well be asking "Did everyone in the K.G.B. wholeheartedly approve of that organization's actions?"

Don't you think you're a little too old to be peddling or falling for the fallacy that the actions and intentions of a community are divorced from those of the people in that community? I don't think it's even possible to make the excuse of ignorance, because this is just outright dishonesty. Leftychan is a politically charged imageboard notorious for raiding other websites, with an entire public board dedicated to doing so, with rather explicit political motivations behind it. Denying this is just ignoring objective reality, for the sake of pushing an agenda, and calling everyone else stupid for not thinking the same way you do.

Back to the original point, another reason I don't think Leftychan specifically belongs in this webring, and why I'm glad most of the webring chose not to include it, is because it is a fuarrrking drama magnet, and nothing good for the health of this community will come from any association with it. Literally the barest mention of it is already making a tiny flame war.

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 No.78557

>>78553
I like the part where the only one who even brought this subject up was yourself and now you're calling it a drama magnet. Sounds like you've got some insecurities to interrogate.

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 No.78561>>78582

>>78469 Although it's never a mandate to do so. Perhaps one of those unspoken rules. However, putting the Webring on your site lets others know you respect them enough to promote the Lainchan Webring. Which in turn convinces others to add your site to their listing as well. This completes the cycle of how a webring is supposed to work. You can of course moderate and remove whoever you want. Your site your rules.

It's not impossible for an image board to join. Agora Road has accomplished this task easily. It all comes down to respect yo.

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 No.78573

>>78539
am i having a cryptic tls error again or did you not scroll down? i have several posts up, and my copy of lainch is at the bottom of the page. it's not a full copy, because i'd prefer to curate the pages i have on my page because it's a decentralized webring.

anyone looking at it from the outside and clicking on the page will eventually find a copy of sizeofcat's or yukinu or whoevers full up to date copy

>>78543

thank you !!:)

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 No.78574

>>78539
just troubleshooted after clearing cache, site seems to be hitting a seperate subdomain because nginx will be nginx. i promise i have a blog, but nginx doesn't like hosting it lol

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 No.78582

>>78561
Noted, I'll add a link to the about page.

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 No.78590>>78591>>78680>>78842

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Do you ever feel like you're out of stuff to do or say? I can't think of any changes to make, pages to add, posts to write, etc. All of my arcade machines are working, so there isn't much to "log" anymore. The stickers and the shop page were fun to make, but I'm itching to keep moving. Where do you guys find inspiration?

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 No.78591

>>78590
so sit back, do something different, maybe a cool constructive project, come back and write a blog about it

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 No.78619

>>77505
Yeah, you probably should.

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 No.78680>>78706

>>78590
I do, and I think we have a distorded view or understanding of personal web pages. If I'm not wrong, the old internet used to move much slower than present day's internet. It may be that our current expectatation of the web is lots of new content every short time, and is a byproduct of mass social media platforms, which encourage frivolous and low effort blogposting (think of the average social media post - worthless), which have malaccustomed us to it.
The old web used to change much more slowly, you can verify this with the wayback machine. I think the web should return to the old ways, and have some kind of "significancy" filter, so that a "mass social media" situation doesn't repeat.

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 No.78706

>>78680
>>78700
It's not that I want to pump out "content" YouTube style, I just like having something to work on. The top of my high score page doesn't look like much, but it was fun making that Hugo shortcode and drawing Naomi in a dress. I randomly have ideas for cool stuff like making the accent color of the "latest post" blurb change color depending on the section it's posted in, but for now I'm just waiting for the next cool idea. Speaking of wanting something to work on, I nearly bought a really fuarrrked up Sega Aero City but ultimately decided not to.

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 No.78753

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hello frens i have a new theme yet again
add urself at https://github.com/SevensRequiem/requiem.moe/tree/main/webring

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 No.78842>>78860

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Hey, does anyone have a list of RSS links for the lainchan webring?

I recently learned what it was and added RSS to my site. It's really comfy.

>>78590
Never, EVER. Docker, databases, archiving software, frontend for ffmpeg and ytdlp, scrapers, building other websites and services that actually do things besides communicating self authored information, documenting, enhancing security and privacy with dns over https, grapheneos, linux hardening, etc. etc.the list goes on and on and never stops. Ever.

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 No.78860

>>78842
>>78848
The 0x19 version has moar feeds
https://0x19.org/lainring

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 No.78995

>>78968
Why do you use Gmail?

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 No.78999

>>78996
>this is straight up a store
And even so, the webmaster didn't add the lainring on its site, very lame

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 No.79032

>>78968
added anyway vnice, shame I'm not in us
- xn-neko

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 No.79046

>>78996
I'm pretty sure i've sold on ebay with a custom domain before, gmail is probably a conscious choice (which is crazy to me!)

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 No.79180

>>79179
Maybe some of it is just the red text on black background, kind of creates an expectation of edginess

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 No.79182>>79186

>>79179
>>79181
following up, they like goth. that's a pretty dead giveaway they're some kind of fuarrrked in the head.
punk and all its offshoots were made for and by rejects.

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 No.79185>>79208

>>79183
>thats post-columbine rhetoric. its difficult to generalize 'people who like x' because people like the same things for different reasons.
true, most metal enthusiasts i've met are totally sane people. i singled out goth because i haven't gotten over my ex who turned gay back in 2014.
>>79183
>fixed the filename, I think I just wrote raven because I didn't know what it was. thanks.
i didn't want to be the douchebag to correct you, but i am very passionate about corvids.
>>79184
>I thought that Lainchan of all places would be understanding of annoyance at mindsets/practices that are near-inescapably enforced by society. It's not a "personality disorder".
disorder means a deviance from "normal" pattern. disorder is disorder, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing, in fact, being a little deranged is good for thinking differently. that dog paragraph combined with his other likes/dislikes however does throw a red flag telling not to trust them for anything but knowledge.

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 No.79186>>79189

>>79182
I just like the music because it sounds cool. I'm not so much into the fashion, except for wearing all black (though that was more inspired by Gary Numan and Kraftwerk).
>>79179
>>79181
While it's not confirmed, it's likely that I have autism. Don't know if that counts as a personality disorder.
Evidently my writing style comes across as hostile when I just thought I was being matter-of-fact. In real life, I am fairly polite and keep to myself, and I use the website to be more expressive. Some things I post, like the dog paragraph and >>79183, are angry but most of them aren't.

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 No.79188

>>79175
I agree. Very cringe takes.
>>79178
They're stupid, sick, and contrarian.

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 No.79189>>79197

>>79186
I find it funny more than anything. I think its not the hostility you're catching flak for but the matter-of-factness (as you state) with which you state your positions on topics you excessively simplify.

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 No.79195

The level of outrage over this is confusing. How have you pearl-clutchers survived the internet long enough to end up on an obscure imageboard?

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 No.79197>>79198

>>79189
I don't get why people are so mad. This reminds me of when I was on Discord years ago and multiple people criticised my use of full stops as "threatening".
What am I supposed to do, add a bunch of disclaimers about how I'm aware that I don't know everything, my opinions are subjective and personal, and other perspectives exist? I dislike when people do that, it's redundant and I want them to get straight to the point.

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 No.79198

>>79197
i am pretty sure only one or two are mad, some are just concerned, most are confused why it's such a big deal, and i am having a good time watching this train wreck.

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 No.79204

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 No.79205>>79206>>79209

>>79199
Reddit would surely agreed with his take on crossdressing. Especially the "we shall end gender roles and human decency lulz" part of it. I don't know about the dog hatred, though. Maybe that's too overboard, even for Redditors. I also find it funny how you're trying to paint the people criticizing him simultaneously as users for being "butthurt", and ebil bullies for "attacking" him. Overall, I believe he should recognize that free speech (which he also supports) doesn't mean freedom from criticism, specially when it comes to unpopular opinions like these.

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 No.79206>>79214

>>79205
It's not the opinions, it's the attitude. The appeals to normalcy, the lingo and the dogpiling. Call them redditors, twatters, 4chinners whatever. They're all malignant cunts. I criticized his eva review earlier in this thread. There difference between criticizing opinions and being a condescending cunt is obvious.

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 No.79207>>79209

>>79176
"Don't like muh opinion? You must be a SNOWFLAKE."
Holy kek the contradictions in your philosophy

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 No.79208

>>79185
dated person inclined to become gay and goth in 2014, meaning likely female because gay doesn't become gay. interest in magpies and corvids. personality evinced by post similar. i likely know who you are.

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 No.79209>>79214

>>79205
>recognize that free speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism
I know that. Saying "yikes", "cringe", "insane", and "personality disorder" is hardly criticism.
>"we shall end gender roles and human decency lulz"
What in the paragraph is against "human decency"? It explicitly condemns immodesty and bad taste.
>>79207
You don't have to like my opinion. However, if your objection consists of social media buzzwords and fails to address the opinion itself, I will not take you seriously.

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 No.79214

>>79206
>>79209
I see. In my opinion, the reason for this reaction is just that alephnull seemed to overly rationalize things that are traditionally well accepted in those entries. There are a lot of things that don't make sense if you think too much about it but are essential to our society to function, like marriage, or having children. Pets and gender roles are also among those things, they've also been here since the dawn of men. It's very different from an NGE review.

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 No.79230

>>79219
You will never possess a nice looking website.

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 No.79231>>79273>>79281

>>79219
start out with chat gpt. that'd what i did, eventually i got the hang of it

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 No.79273>>79275

>>79231
in this niche internet imageboard we disavow the usage of chatgpt

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 No.79275>>79276

>>79273
Why? I understand being against in the case of using it to write blogs and other content, but I don't see anything wrong with using it to learn how to design HTML and CSS

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 No.79276>>79279

>>79275
not him, to be honest I don't really see whats wrong with it either, but lets be honest there's like a billion and a half ok examples of HTML/CSS you can look like and only slightly less than that number of alright HTML/CSS tutorials. ChatGPT is just the latest icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the cake that gives you no excuse for not being able to make a website.

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 No.79277>>79281>>79285

>>79219
HTML/CSS are relatively easy, especially something like Luke's site (his stylesheet is cleanly laid out, which helps in learning from it). You'll have most of your page together pretty quickly and then waste hours trying to figure out how to animate the border of a button, or get image embeds to scale to exactly the size you want, or something.

I'd suggest making a list of sites that you like the look of, figuring out how they implemented certain features (view page source, see their HTML, open the CSS it links) and then keeping your own little dictionary. You'll likely want to confine yourself to small sites, since most others fetch some giant template (like materialize css) that's been minified and is horrible to read and deciper (and even if you look at the original stylesheet, it's quite annoying to dig through). Although, not every template site is like that. S-Config uses what looks like a wordpress template, but it's well-marked and he doesn't hotlink it.

First try to make some text, some boxes, embed an image, change font size, make a border and change the colour of it, etc, just to make sure you understand how a page goes together. Then you can sketch out what the site should approximately do on paper or in Krita or whatever. Learn how to do harder things as you need them. For example, I implemented desktop/mobile layouts using @media and checking the width measured in em in order to decide when to snap between layouts. I have clickable buttons that use hover and not(:hover) for some basic graphics and dropdown menus on mouse hover. I only learned how to do that stuff because I specifically wanted it.

Some stuff is kind of annoying. If you want to stack things, have elements that pop up and draw over other things, etc. it can get kind of annoying figuring out how to nest everything. At a certain point, your design wants and technical ability will both adjust until they approximately match each other and you'll have a page that you're mostly happy with.

Some webring sites that might be nice to learn from:
https://0x19.org/
https://articexploit.xyz/
https://datura.network/
https://vendell.online/
https://navyjoecomics.neocities.org/

My site is
https://bass2nick.com/
It's a little janky with some inline CSS that I should really replace, but it works and I can explain it. More importantly, I can use what I learned putting this together to make another site more quickly and with less vestigial clutter in the code.

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 No.79279>>79280>>79282

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>>79276
It's honestly easy to make a nice looking site just by limiting the scope. A site that servers static content sure as hell doesn't need any overly fancy styling. If anything I suggest that one sticks to maintaining support for really old browsers, like those from the late 90s and early 00s as an added challenge. That's what I set out to do when styling http://pc98.ne.jp

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 No.79280>>79286

>>79279
You might find this file collection on my site useful. There's software tools and the like in the アプリ folder.
https://fukumen.mooo.com/content/PC-98_collection/

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 No.79281

>>79219
just start. Minimize scope. Depending on your end goal, you can get away with using a static site generator forever and never directly touching html unless you decide to interpolate it into your markdown. (luke smith uses hugo but there are a billion https://jamstack.org/generators/ pick one and proceed to suffer)
I prefer server side scripting but I used jekyll in the past and even wrote my own static site generator using pandoc and shell scripts. I need to write about it eventually but it's shell hell so I'd have to relearn how it even works.
>>79231
>start out with chat gpt
instead, go to a website you like and read the source code. This is better because you know it will actually work and also because you can do proper attribution if you're including something complicated.
>>79277
>0x19
this is an anti-design philosophy inspired by werc. Uriel was right. It's PHP with HTML, pages use responsive css but default to something at least readable in the event that a browser does not support css. "Improving" the style wouldn't be too hard. Feel free to clone the entire thing and fiddle. It's there to learn from.

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 No.79282>>79286

>>79279
Wouldnt it be possible to make a site work on old browsers without limiting functionality of modern browsers? Like a sort of fallback replacement for different components depending on browser and version? That would be a challenge in it's own.

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 No.79285

>>79277
thanks for the tip. I checked the source code for those pages and somewhat know what's going on now. lots of "div"s to split the page into different sects

mine isn't that complicated. just want a navigation (home, about me, blog, etc) on top, then want the body to be just text. the home button I want links to a few pages on the top, and then my newest blog posts at the bottom, kinda like how Luke did it.

my site is neocities btw

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 No.79286

>>79282
You could probably tell the web server to serve entirely different content based on the identified user agent. Though that assumes you have access to the web server's configuration, which pretty much no free hosting service will let you meddle with.
>>79280
We have nearly all of it archived in one way or another, but thanks for the heads up anyway.

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 No.79288>>79289

>>79219
ok since no one has said it yet JUST fuarrrkING INSPECT PAGES THAT YOU LIKE AND DOWNLOAD THEM, EVEN. fuarrrkING CTRL+SHIFT+C, OR RIGHT CLICK, AND HIT INSPECT. LOOK AT HOW THEY CODE THEIR WEBSITES, AND TEST OUT THE CODE YOURSELF OFFLINE IN YOUR WEB BROWSER MAN, SHIT. LOOK UP TUTORIALS ON HOW TO CODE HTML, IT'S EASY YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING.

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 No.79289

>>79288
I think people see some of the theming on existing websites and get intimidated by their apparent complexity. From my experience its 80% design (not coding) and 20% implementation.

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 No.79320>>79322

File: 1723659715459-0.png (2.97 KB, 240x60, 4:1, webring-banner.png) ImgOps iqdb

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Hashchan.network is an imageboard designed to be tolerant to gpt botnet swarms by hiding inside ethereum event logs and hotlinking images to preferably ipfs pinning services. With no central server the client is runnable locally with npm run dev jn the web folder and an rpc connection either from a cloud provider or your own archive node. Built with react typescript viem and hardhat for the smart contract.

No token, no cuts, no cloudflare, captchas or ads.

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 No.79322

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>>79320
Had to do a gif version

Hashchan.network
Github.com/hashchan

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 No.79356

>>79328
Thanks for having a look anon, hopefully this wins the award for most cypherpunk image boarzld

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 No.79433

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RIP Liberty Witch, after the blog being down for a while now it was scooped up by some chinese stuff

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 No.79439

>>79435
thanks for update, yukinon. glad to have you back!

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 No.79536

https://gayniggersfromouterspace.neocities.org
Another one bites the dust, was it derezzed or deleted?

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 No.79678

>>79668
what are you running Exchange 5.5 for? am I not mistaken in thinking 5.5 is >20 years old?

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 No.79689

>>79679
Why so Microsoft ;_;
Also, if you're thinking I'm spaztron, I'm not ;)

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 No.79794

>>79783
I wonder...
https://vimf%41g.net/ this might still be clickable without hitting the filter.

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 No.79836>>79840>>88721

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returning lain here!

ive been inactive and a lurker for a while, so im back here to update my button, as well as chug through this thread to add everyone to my page :3

https://crystepsi.neocities.org (should redirect to crystepsi.com)

>>77185
i literally just found you while surfing the net! awesome site. to be specific, i found your onion mirror >:3

>>77208

and i found you by surfing! the net is feeling very cosy tonight!

keep up the good work everyone!

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 No.79837>>79838>>79842

>tfw you can remember when pt.1 of this thread was made
What is the typical workflow/tools for a webdev in current year to make a website manually (front end creation mainly, but latest backend techniques/trends if you are aware also)?
I heard that new fangled SASS beat that other rival tech, and you don't use Macromedia Dreamweaver with Flash & Photoshop anymore?
>y u no search interwebz?
I'm interested in hearing the opinions of lainons working as web developers rather than curated cookie-cutter templates from search engines, pushing sponsored website template adverts. I'd love to hear from those who still work in the field. Search engine results have a neutered veneer over them that neither knows nor cares about the reasons or nuances for underlying trend changes in webdev technology.
t. ex-website author
P.S. Netscape alpha with inline JPEGs really was a game changer after all!

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 No.79838

>>79837
id like to say that i take a manual approach to making my site, in that everything is done by hand (fingertips?) through the neocities code editor. id claim that this is to keep it simple, but honestly i just never figured out how to ftp into my neocities account '^-^

for graphics i opt for gimp and a few sites which have tools for creating blinkies and banners (such can be found on my bookmarks page)

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 No.79840>>79844

>>79836
interesting website, although your derezzed doesn't really fit the specified size. Please submit one with the correct size and I'll be happy to add you!
>240x60

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 No.79842

>>79837
i freelance in web development and i've been making websites (mostly backend) for the last 5 years. i'm no designer but when i need to be i use a tool called figma to design layouts for different screen sizes, then manually port it to HTML and CSS. if content needs to change i use whichever SSG fits, often jekyll, and fire it to rebuild on change using a github webhook.

then i just use try_files with nginx to serve the html files raw rather than proxied by a traditional webserver. works well for me and uptime is great as long as you don't make the same ipv6 fuarrrkups i did lol

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 No.79844>>79845

>>79840

oops, my bad, this should do it

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 No.79845

>>79844
Oh hey! Welcome back!

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 No.79863

mhm yep that works, added you!

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 No.79864

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Lots of cool designs, I'll try to browse the ring a bit more. Let me add mine to the pile!

https://world-playground-deceit.net/


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 No.79981>>80006

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https://milkyfiles.neocities.org/
I don't know if this thing is still going.

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 No.79995

>>79983
sorry, i forgot to make the page
but im doing it right now, im currently compressing the images and converting them cause i dont use gifs or jpgs in my website

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 No.80006

>>79981 >>79987 >>79983 >>79995
Here it is: https://milkyfiles.neocities.org/webrings/lainchan
We still need to do some manual work on the banners to make them smaller and maybe use an external file thingy to store the images since the images are 120 times (6mb) bigger than everything else and would be bigger (500 times) if I didn't convert them to PNG (I really recommend doing that since PNGs are smaller than GIFs and can also be animated and don't destroy performance in bigger sizes).

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 No.80007

does anyone know what happened to Torchan?

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 No.80015

>>80014
i used the stuff that was on the ultimatelain site
I guess ill crawl the thread for the ones missing later
what is your website?

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 No.80016>>80019

Someone could try and make it easier for people to use the webring in some way.
This webring is going to be annoying to maintain individually. Specially considering there doesn't seem to be one person verifying everything everytime at the end of the time.

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 No.80017


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 No.80019

>>80016
I guess 0x19's git is the nearest thing to a centralized effort. It should be stickied and MRs made to it, I suppose. OR less vulnerable to bus factor issues, we could mandate a posting format in this thread to add/remove/suspend from the list and I'd make a script to crawl it.

https://gitlab.com/binrc/lainring

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 No.80075>>80101

>>80024
concurring with this, centralizing is a bad idea. there are pages on the ring that i dislike, maybe for their politics or views, which means i don't have to have them on my site.

centralizing makes the ring privy to whoever controls the repo. best way to do lainring is to add the sites you'd like, and if you don't want to there are plenty of lains who have downloadable button packs and RSS OPMLs

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 No.80085>>80101

>>79175
no no, he makes some good points

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 No.80101>>80105>>80196

>>80075
Doesn't ultimatelain solve this problem already? You can just get one of the variants with the sites you like from there and remove the ones you dislike.
>maybe for their politics or views
I don't mean to get political but I'm curious, did you remove left-wing or right-wing sites? If you don't feel like answering directly you can just tell me what's your site and I'll be able to guess.
>>80085
Dogs are cool and "crossdressing" being normalized sounds like a formula for a dysfunctional society.

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 No.80105

>>80101
> I don't mean to get political but I'm curious, did you remove left-wing or right-wing sites? If you don't feel like answering directly you can just tell me what's your site and I'll be able to guess.

i don't care if someone leans right or left, none of my business but when someone has washikas and hortler all over their site or has a shrine to mao or some soykaf then i don't want to advertise it

i know someone is going to call me coal or retarded for saying this but i just don't want any extremists on my site whatsoever, i have stuff online because i like chatting with people over email and finding new music and interracting with all sorts of people, and i grew out of that way of thinking when i was 14

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 No.80159

>>80157
clothes are indicators of social status, profession etc etc etc. A man shouldn't be allowed to wear the uniform of a woman any more than a lieutenant may wear that of a general or a cadet.

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 No.80166>>80167>>80168

>>80163
>If I can really overturn society by wearing dresses, I will buy a dozen right now.
Is this irony, a joke or something like that? That's a serious question.
>>80165
>I like this site but it isn't as great as you make it out to be
Recommend me some websites.

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 No.80167>>80168>>80170>>80179

>>80166
Satire. Using ironic humour to ridicule and make a counterstatement. The photo of a Gaelic man in a traditional kilt is an extra hint. Obviously society isn't so fragile that some people transgressing arbitrary gender norms could have any serious impact. The cultural superstructure of society mirrors its economic base, 'values' ultimately cannot feed your family, progressive nor traditional.
But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living. So if such an absurd thing were somehow possible, it would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals and move towards a better future. So I would buy, like, three.

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 No.80168>>80170

>>80167
>regressive obsolete ideals
Just works in my machine
>>80166
>Recommend me some websites.
The tricky thing is that all "social" sites are either on the level of lainchan or below, when I said it wasn't "as great as he made it out to be" I didn't mean to imply there were much better sites. No social site beats real life or offline solitude, unfortunately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3D1cpm6do

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 No.80170

>>80167
>Satire.
This was enough, the joke would explain itself.
>The cultural superstructure of society mirrors its economic base, 'values' ultimately cannot feed your family, progressive nor traditional.
As I only have personal points of view and opinions on this, I will not talk about it, opinions are not worth much.

>But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living.

If I had been more "traditional" when I was younger, I wouldn't have gotten into as much trouble as I did when I was young.
Honestly, seeking progress and change at all costs will cost you a few broken bones.

> would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals and move towards a better future.

Ideas rarely die, and neither one nor a million people will change this.
There is no better future, there is only the creation of comfort and corporate and government surveillance.
Only you can do the best for yourself.

>>80168
>No social site beats real life or offline solitude, unfortunately
There are always good blogs or websites, but whatever.

>Luke's video.

Thanks man, I had forgotten about this video.

I haven't used YouTube for a while, I even heard that Luke stopped recording videos.
His videos are good, I think, there are some blogs that are more focused than his.
Anyway, thanks.
God bless you all.

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 No.80174

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hey lainanons, ive worked on this for the past 3 days. its a guestbook but on a 16x16 grid and you fill it with your own cool images/comment. idk how original it is but i had a ton of fun working on it. i can make it open source too if anyone wants (its built on top of wordpress)

i cant wait till it gets filled, it has to look hilarious lol

anyways linky is https://antisocial.moe/guestbook/ have fun

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 No.80179>>80185>>80291

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https://crystepsi.com/ is already dead? Man, could you spergs make stuff with a lifetime greater than that of a fart in the wind?
>>80158
Lookin' good! Too bad the isWasted font appears blurry here (Firefox 130, Linux), it really spoils the intent.
>>80161
I guess we did, good thing I know about it know!
>>80162
This place isn't the leftypol/tumblr stronghold you think it is, even if there's a strong presence.
>>80167
>But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living.
Try to not incarnate the proverbial fool in Chesterton's anecdote, anon. People who scorn the long-dead traditionalism and its code barely have an idea of the problems it was made to combat.
>it would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals
Don't worry, it managed without you. You're experiencing the result now.
>and move towards a better future
Yeah, right. hownew.ru to the XXIth century?

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 No.80185

>>80179
There are countless traditions, which no doubt conflict with each other in infinite ways (on more than just the superficial). Unless you are following every tradition you are choosing to reject some, and are also proverbial fool in the analogy you mention.
Personally, any culture past Bronze Age is cyberhumped by default.

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 No.80187

>>80186
>
what are your image size requirements?
max 2mb / 2000x2000px / jpg,png only
if they're too restrictive lemme know

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 No.80196>>80197>>80201

>>80101
Why do dog owners fail to understand that some people don't enjoy large hairy animals jumping on and licking them while making loud noises and possibly shaking dirty water everywhere? Plus they damage your house and you have to pick up their soykaf. If you like that then good for you, but there's no need to push it on everyone.

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 No.80197>>80204

>>80196
Why do you dog haters fail to understand that noone is forcing you to own a dog?

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 No.80201

>>80196
Don't hate dog, but urban dog owners are another story. City people have a deeply unhealthy relationship with animals in general; that of mentally stunted children.

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 No.80204>>80205

>>80197
They may not be forcing you to own one, but the way they freak out whenever someone doesn't like dogs as much as they do is annoying.

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 No.80205>>80206>>80210

https://midnightmountain.xyz/webrings
Why was this guy added to the 0x19 copy of the ring if he explicitly says he doesn't want to be a part of it? I liked the site, though
>>80204
>doesn't like dogs as much as they do
There's a huge difference between simply disliking dogs and hating dogs and you soulless dog haters are leaning to the former with these stupid comments.
And yes, people obviously will "freak out" if you hate dogs, in the same way people will freak out if I put orphans or elders on my personal dislikes list.
>but dogs poop dude LMAO
Then don't own one? Dogs are innocent and loving creatures and your rethoric is nonsensical. Your rational for hating dogs for such petty reasons are like hating kids because you don't want to have one, might add that in your next list.

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 No.80206>>80209

>>80205
not to mention dogs are empathetic as fuarrrk, pets can get you through soykaf times in life sometimes.

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 No.80209

>>80206
Dogs are also so loyal its the defining characteristic in thier symbolism.

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 No.80210

>>80205
you have to click the dropdown
You are allowed to use something without endorsing that specific thing

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 No.80215

I don't hate dogs themselves. I feel the same way about them as I do about other animals, i.e. they are all right as long as they don't get too close to me. What I actually hate is the type of dog owner that has this starry-eyed Disney mindset about the nature of dogs, and denounces people who don't share this mindset as "soulless" etc. Especially the ones who use annoying Reddit slang.
I'm shifting the focus of my website away from my opinions and towards my hobbies. The site will be more interesting and purposeful that way. Also, at the moment I am too inarticulate to be opinionated online.

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 No.80216

>>80213
>finding and discussing good qualities is soulless
What a mindset. Explains alot about his blog though.

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 No.80227

>>80226
>these angelic creatures who are perfectly innocent, empathetic, loyal, loving and so on.
They mostly are... pit bulls and other retarded violent dogs are exceptions
>"doggo", "pupper", "fur baby", etc.
It's not dog's fault that there are people who talk like f4gg0ts

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 No.80258

Shut the fuarrrk about the dogs and make a thread on it.

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 No.80289>>80291>>80292

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>>80262
I usually attach cat pictures, have a soykafty blog post in horrible format slightly related to this drama: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/blog/#1727984982
I think most lainons are just reluctant about namefagging even though it'd make some sense in this usecase. either way it works most posting here doesnt need a link to who is who and people repost their stuff regardless
t. xn-neko

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 No.80291>>80292

>>80262
>>80289
I realise I havent done it all that much in this thread, but I used to more before.
for quick clarity I am not >>80179 but his opinions are fine also so feel free to think so incorectly.
been almost a week without anyone adding a banner common people surely there are lurkers around here that are slacking on finishing up and posting a banner

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 No.80292>>80293

>>80289
How is the ascii art comment in the website code supposed to be viewed? I'm changing width and nothing is happening

>>80291
slacking..

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 No.80293>>80294

>>80292
just click view source, or curl | head -n120 it

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 No.80294

>>80293
nice, looks like my librewolf setup was just fuarrrking some of the spacing.

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 No.80327>>80328

>>80326
>ending address
You mean TLD? Look into the process of actually making one, specifically the cost Alternatively, everyone could just use alt dns roots like OpenNIC where the process isnt that soykaf, but you will be filtering out anyone who does not know how to change DNS servers (not that much of a problem for here though)

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 No.80328

>>80327
Sorry I kind of forget the proper terms for .com .net .org .co.uk .co.jp .xyz .moe .site and so on. I get it using country designator codes for signaling the language of the site though but I just thought it might be helpful if people didnt have to remember so many different ways a sites address might be written where so many have no pattern but could still make it stand out from corporate websites. Am I making sense?

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 No.80334

>>80332
Im not too knowledgable about TLD politics, I just bought a .cyou domain because it was cheap a few years ago. Apparently every Indian scammer had the same idea to the point where I had to get my domain manually whitelisted on my university network through IT. Its a cool tld so cant complain.

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 No.80339

>>80338
>block mobile browsing
That would be just inconvenient for mobile users, xyz is a better filter because all it does is filtering idiots, even PC idiots. It also looks/sounds cool and is a virtue signaling among independent web enthusiasts because of Luke Smith, it's similar to what ".moe" is to anime users

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 No.80376>>80377>>80421

Finally crawled the webring to find all the interesting and not-dead feeds, collected more than twenty! Found out that a few other websites bit the dust: alephzero.neocities.org, b4rkod.net.tr and gamajun.neocities.org.

I must also say that having an (interesting) blog without a RSS/Atom feed should be a crime. Thinking mostly about mm4rk3t.neocities.org and maybe a bit vim user.net.

Also read https://0x19.org/posts/2024-04-03.php and the conclusion made some sense. Personally, if I were to reboot the lainring, I'd ask for people to at least have the intention to keep it alive before showing up and choose a category between personal websites with updates (thus a feed) and others (link repositories, service, shop window for cool CSS/JS, etc...).

By the way, any opinion about the readability/objective design of https://world-playground-deceit.net/? Did some stuff to improve it (font-size +1, line-height 1.3, some stuff right aligned, etc...), but I'd like some external feedback.

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 No.80377

>>80376
alephzero is now aleph-0.neocities.org
>lainchan webring is ~1/2 abandoned neocities web pages
I blame poor user neets including myself

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 No.80421

>>80376
This reminded me to check my RSS XML, turns out I made a syntax error and didn't notice, so thanks for the indirect reminder.

In regards to webring state, I think the issue is that everybody's taking the wrong approach. As 0x19 pointed out, why bother maintaining a page when you can put it up on neocities for free and advertise your social network site profiles. Just having a site is not enough to keep most people engaged. There's two potential solutions:

1) Don't make it a "personal" site, as in just to advertise your online presence. Focus it on a theme people would find interesting and keep it up to date, just like fansites of the early Web did. Or hell, upload your works on it and do it consistently, and only do so on the site itself, no mirroring to social media! It's not always a numbers game, put some passion into it.

2) Don't *just* make a site, handle the entire infrastructure. Take it from me, I invested into the arcesia.net domain and a killer VPS deal to move away from my friend's domain (superglobalmegacorp.com) and internal network into something I could control from top to bottom. I regularly use Wireguard and SSH tunneling on that server for accessing my home computer from work or anywhere else in the world, and that's just *one* of many things I do with this infrastructure. Playing around with Web and network technologies is fun, productive, and sharpens your skills, so I actually have an incentive to keep my eye on everything. This is a solution that 0x13 proposed in the linked article, and I fully agree that it would be the most effective way to liven up the webring.

As for your site, I love the dedication to keeping the CDE aesthetic, just please recolor the links on the left side menu. They blend too much with the blue background color.

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 No.87025>>88717>>89521

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Anyone here?

https://cy-x.net
https://cy-x.net/forum/images/button.png
My personal website and network where I am providing my self hosted services for anyone interested in breaking away from corporate platforms and communicating
in places away from privacy violation.

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 No.88629

I took the ring from https://articexploit.xyz/ring/ to try my hand at it. Thanks for compiling that together.
I still have a few bugs to work out with domain to banner matching, and I might adjust the layout a bit, but I have a webring up that checks if sites are still up.
https://korrok.tech/webring

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 No.88714

>>88368
Anyone got inside so far? How is it?

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 No.88717

wait, is this an old thread?

>>87025
added you, at least in part (too lazy to go add everyone's banners)

also, is there a feed generated for your articles?

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 No.88721>>89114>>89521

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>>78033
The redesign for newdigitalera.org is sick. AI is gonna cripple humanity as we know it but I feel as long as people like you, me and other lainons like us exist we are gonna be fine

>>79836
I had a blast going through your site. Excited to see how it turns out when it's a bit more stable. Keep posting more, we like it . I like it

That last thread was wild, so many great sites. Sorry for being quiet for a few months, I had to disconnect and grind for the JLPT.

Here's my site again:

https://dotto.neocities.org

I've pushed some updates since last time. The windows are now movable, and many UI bugs are fixed but I still have a long long way to go. As for the blog, trying to code new entries into the Internet Explorer window is proving to be a nightmare. Every morning I have to choose between writing new content or fixing the code for the site; I always find myself choosing the latter first to set the foundation.

I also put in a few easter eggs, taking inspiration from (pic related).

Kudos to you if you manage to find them.
lemme know in the mail If you saw one or have suggestions for new and creative ones, I'll credit you in the scenes.

I'll be updating my ring with the sites from this thread shortly. It's good to be back.

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 No.88919>>88964>>89004>>89015>>89110>>89521

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(are we using this thread now?)
after some deliberation i've added the lainring to this site, feel free to link back if you like it too, it's all musings and photos: https://cattle.nehulus-vagus.com/
the webring page is at https://cattle.nehulus-vagus.com/lainchan (accessible from the homepage clicking through transition --> lainchan)

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 No.88964

>>88919
hell yeah, that's a cool site
added you

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 No.89004>>89021

>>88919
suggestion. define the width and height of images or use css to add placeholder image height to the layout sections.
so on a refresh the layout doesnt stretch around while the pictures load in. they just appear when loaded.

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 No.89015>>89021

>>88919
I really like your site ,The purple theme is nice plus enjoy reading the things you've been posting.
You mentioned something about music MP3's, I'm curious as to how most people are getting ahold of MP3 Files for their music players oppose to simply ripping youtube videos and turning them into MP3 Files.
I know I can torrent popular albums but not for the more obscure things.

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 No.89021

>>89004
that's a good idea, thanks! i'll try something like this when i have a moment
>>89015
soulseek. use this client for a smoother experience (it's your only choice on linux or a BSD anyway): https://nicotine-plus.org/
just about anything you could ever want can be found here with enough patience. but people (including me) also buy and rip their own CDs

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 No.89036>>89038>>89066>>89104>>89110>>89521

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Hello lainons, after checking out the webring threads again I finally decided to make my own website.
>Site: https://whisper-9821.org
>Webring: https://whisper-9821.org/webring.html
>RSS: https://whisper-9821.org/rss.xml

It's pretty simple and doesn't have much to offer at the moment, but I do plan on writing more tutorials (some hardware tinkering, jailbreaking, basic homelab setup etc.) and setting up a few services to go along with it. I hope you like it.

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 No.89038>>89044

>>89036
Looks promising. The site is very legible and easy on the eyes with just the right amount of visual flair. Solid design. The two articles were also a pleasure to read, the yt one especially hit pretty close to home. Can't wait for mroe.
(Also for some reason I'm getting the strongest sense of deja vu from the site but I can't put my finger on why. Maybe it's becayse the background looks like my actual irl wallpaper... or did I stumble upon it earlier through wiby.me/surprise ? idk)

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 No.89044

>>89038
Thank you so much! Although there is still a lot to improve, legibility and proper formatting were the two main things I was going for when making it so I'm really glad that someone else thinks it looks good. As for why it may look familiar, I took some inspiration (and some css) from the windowmaker website and the background was also from another lainon in one of the desktop threads, so one/both of those may explain it.

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 No.89063


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 No.89066

>>89036
Very nice and well organised, appreciate

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 No.89074>>89105

still a work in progress but definitely getting there. available in both clearnet and tor version.
learnet: 353cloud.neocities.org
tor: 353cloudnl5yovsoko62kqdev2ieuaqwy2hjxjboxob3davwayuckdyd.onion
if I'm missing you from the webring, reply to this post or contact me somehow, and I'll fix that.

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 No.89104

>>89036
I like the design, serif text is easy to read

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 No.89105>>89140

>>89074
I see this a lot for some reason, why is it that some people who use neocities also host their own site under Tor? I thought that neocities is only used by people who don't know/don't wish to set up their own server.

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 No.89110>>89111

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>>88919
>>89036
please post in the latest webring thread I almost missed you fuarrrkers
t. xn-neko

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 No.89111

>>89110
I didnt realize the latest one was at post limit, fair I guess but what shouldve happened was a new one instead

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 No.89114

>>88721
>https://dotto.neocities.org
This is dope, it must have taken a lot of work.
Also you might wanna fix those CORS errors (picrel)

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 No.89140

>>89105
actually the tor site is hosted on its own servers separate from neocities. The neocities version was propped up initially when I was still looking to get my vanity address.

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 No.89143>>89147>>89152>>89162

We really need an alternative to the current internet. That pest of ID verification is making inroads into our right to navigate and browse. The people pretending doing it on behalf of children are liars, they allow all the technologies that create sorrow and they part of an internal cabal of pedophiles themselves. The old internet needs to die and be replaced ASAP.

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 No.89147>>89152>>89162

>>89143
Be the change you want to see, lainon. If you have your own site, move it to something like Gopher or Gemini, and tell HTTP clients to get their own client and visit your site using that. If you have friends that host their own sites, ask them if they want to setup mirrors over alternate protocols. Make Gopher Great Again.

But let's be realistic, the modern web won't die. People complain, but will still use it.

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 No.89152>>89157


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 No.89157

>>89152
Seems more of a tightly knit community than an alternative to the internet, no?

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 No.89162

>>89143
I sometimes wonder if in coming years making a site on Tor will be the only way to do anything that isn't payment provider and/or government approved.

>>89147
I'm still not convinced that Gemini and the like are useful for anything more than hipster blogs.

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 No.89197>>89198>>89521

https://gand-elf.neocities.org/

my super cool website, it's in french for obvious reasons when you know i'm french

i share some analysis and reviews of book/movies/animes/anything really

also a bit of math and developpement + will add miniature picture when i can think of a good way to present them

i built it whit HUGO it's very easy took me like 30 min to set up, and huge thanks to https://gitlab.com/jmfergeau/hugo.386 who made the amazing theme i forked.

hosted on neocities, again easy to set up getting the CLI installed and working can be a bit annoying for a beginner but nothing impossible

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 No.89198

>>89197
May I ask where are you from ?

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 No.89215>>89229>>89521

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Been thinking of joining for a while, why not go for it now?
I am LostintheCycle, or Lost. My website is just a place where I can share my work, be they essays, fiction, or poetry. At the moment, I'm interested in theory of media, analyzing and understanding the mediums we use today.
My domain:
lostinthecycle.xyz 
My banner:
http://lostinthecycle.xyz/img/banner.png 

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 No.89229

>>89215
I adore what I've read on your site, your faling asleep poem and the daydreaming essay especially.

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 No.89237>>89244

anyone got the newest lainchan webring as html or markdown? Where to find it?

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 No.89244

>>89237
https://otherdemons.com/lainchan/
I have on my website JSON + banner images that include the latest from this thread. It should be pretty easy to parse into HTML (any AI can do it if you need help).

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 No.89258>>89271

Hi, tinfoil-hat here, I updated the webring on my page (https://tinfoil-hat.net) maybe someone wants to check if it's valid. Also I have a new onion address: ylpp7ah7osno57vwj5ona2kegsozcpq6zxlkwhm7nvy34gewq22rvuqd.onion

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 No.89271>>89281>>89282

>>89258
At least two sites you list in the "probably dead" category seem alive: https://midnightmountain.xyz/ and https://cy-x.net/

They seem correctly (un-)labeled in my JSON data (looks like you might have used that).

(Congratz on becoming the oldest not-dead site in the webring)

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 No.89281>>89284

>>89271
corrected https://midnightmountain.xyz/ but https://cy-x.net/ seems to be offline for me

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 No.89282

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>>89271
>(Congratz on becoming the oldest not-dead site in the webring)
also thanks mate

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 No.89284>>89285

>>89281
cy-x is definitely up, they even had a recent redesign

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 No.89285>>89286>>89338

>>89284
strange, I can view this site only with VPN activated. I have quad9 as DNS, without any blocking enabled, the OS is a Linux, Browser is Librewolf. so that can't it be either. Why can't I acces this site?

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 No.89286

>>89285
ip ban on their end maybe? only thing I can think of that makes sense

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 No.89293>>89309>>89312

how do you guys stay motivated to keep your sites/blogs up? everytime I want to start one, I am afraid I'll get bored of it and my site will just decay over time.

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 No.89309

>>89293
if you're doing projects and the lot, having them on your site is a no-brainer and gives you a decent reason to update the site
still, when it comes down to it, you've gotta want to keep updating the site for yourself

I know my site gets fuarrrk-all traffic (even far more well-known personal sites don't get that much traffic) and I don't expect many people to see anything I do, so I can't really use that to drive if I want to update it
but I absolutely love seeing all of this stuff I did in one place, and there's at least a chance that someone else might see it

really though, as long as you don't get into the loop of writing blog posts about how long it has been and nothing else, it's fine if you start a site and don't update it super often
just have fun, really

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 No.89312

>>89293
I don't mean to sound like a smartass but every site will eventually cease to be updated and will decay over time. One year doesn't matter, a decade is as nothing. If you have the slightest inclination to create a website (or something else) stop calculating and start digesting. The former can go on forever without fruit but the latter is guaranteed to produce something at the end, even if it is crap. And you are always free to walk away but now you have a new place to return to.

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 No.89320>>89357

>>76893 (OP)
Is there still no proper way of finding the most up-to-date JSON file containing all the entire webring, other than cross-referencing the ones you find?

There HAS to be a better way to do this, no?

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 No.89338

>>89285
quad9 falsely blocked cy-x.net, progress is being made to get it taken off their blocklist.

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 No.89357>>89376

>>89320
I should actively work on my webring more, but it shouldn't be too hard for me to add in a function to export the alive/dead lists into a JSON file for other people to use.

I also need to make a banner for my site seeing as though I forgot to make one.

You can just grab the raw HTML from my webring https://korrok.tech/webring and parse it if you'd like. I have a job that regenerates the page every Sunday after checking each site in the ring for its status.

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 No.89376>>89409

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 No.89409

>>89376
So sorry about that, and that it took me a few days to get around to fixing it, but your banner is matched now.

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 No.89457>>89521

Hey there guys, CozyNet here,
Just wanted to put out a new webring badge for anyone that could be bothered to update it on their copy of the webring. If not, then that's fine by me seeing how far I've fallen behind here in keeping my copy of the webring list up-to-date.
By the way, I keep webrings on the link page toward the bottom. Since the Lainchan webring is so large, it has its own dedicated page.
Thanks

Site address: https://www.cozynet.org/
Feed address: https://www.cozynet.org/feed/feed.xml
Webring address: https://www.cozynet.org/links/lainchan.html

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 No.89493>>89502>>89521

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I've finally made a banner for my site if people would like to add me to their webrings my site is https://korrok.tech
If I'm missing anyone from my webring please let me know

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 No.89502

>>89493
love ur website, been reloading for the random banner for 15min

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 No.89521>>89522>>89526

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So, who's alive? world-playground-deceit.net here, didn't post on lainchan for some time but hey, AoC 2025 should fix that!
Only thing that could interest people here is that I found some ways to make content fit in a 88x31 button: https://world-playground-deceit.net/blog/2025/06/making-of-a-88x31-button.html

>>87967
Added, but still WIP after 3 months...
>>88075
Updated but left you in the "abandoned" category for now.
>>87025
Added, some interesting articles but in dire need of a feed, as another Anon said.
>>88721
Nice update! Lots of broken stuff around viewport size and mouse cursor detection here... but it's still cool.
>>88919
Added, love the design. Page loading seems a bit slow here?
>>89036
Added (incl. your feed), hope you won't join the countless other DoA websites.
>>89197
Added, but you should also have a feed. Nice design, though! At least another frog in here... I wonder how many we are?
>>89215
Added, but you REALLY need a feed, since your site is all about the reviews. Liking the idea of stars in the article title itself, to get the rating before even opening the review.
Font is too small for my eyes.
>>89457
Updated, love the new design. Good to have some Anons that don't give up on posting!
>>89493
Added, lovin' it. The random banner is a good idea, so is the dynamic webring and fun fact box.


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 No.89526>>89541

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>>89521
First posted in the 15th webring thread before this one supplanted it.
https://orkastle.neocities.org/

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 No.89541>>89544

>>89526
Sorry I missed you, fixed! Game looks interesting, would try it once it's finished (not beta/early access); hope it'll have an option to only set text to English and keep Japanese voices.

I update my custom SSG and internal Lainring data format to make it super easy to update: https://git.sr.ht/~q3cpma/website/tree/master/item/src/links/webrings/lainring.spindata

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 No.89544

>>89541
There wont be a lot of voiced lines, and whatever is, will just be in JP.

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