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 No.76893[Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread]

Part 13!

How do I join?

Post:
* a link to your website
* a 240x60 banner of your website

(Optional):
* Post a link to your RSS feed on your site. Communicate with other Lains by responding to articles on their RSS feeds with responses on your RSS feed. If you're both subscribed to each others feeds, you'll see each others responses and can long-form communicate back and forth in a decentralized way.
* Share your tech stack. What tools are you using to build your site, resources for learning how to build sites, guides on self hosting and shared hosting, etc, etc. Help new anons set up their own sites and join the webring.
* Share and start projects. What are you working on or want to work on? Others may want to collaborate.
* Talk to people throughout the net. Some useful protocols and tools for communicating: Email, IRC, XMPP, Matrix, Forums.

More Links:
* Prior thread (12): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/73638.html
* Prior prior thread (11): https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/70358.html
* Combined Webring RSS OPML: https://0x19.org/lainring/opml.php

Notable Events From Prior Threads:
* New Digital Era's Lainchan Spring Web Festival (https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/73638.html#q75738)

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 No.76911>>77069

>>76886
> I have added your site.
i like your site, and i browse it from time to time to get inspiration. So, thank you for including mine.

>I might eventually add a locale field to help readers find things in their native language.

that would be great! i think theres another person besides me who writes and publishes in ar.

>Not sure how I feel about non-english. I like japanese because it fits the anime forum attitude.

absolutely, it's completely understandable. and rest assured, the site does embrace Japanese (see logo) and the internet culture, also i translate different stuff from jp and en to ar sometimes

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 No.76916>>76989>>77069

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What do applications do y'all use to create a banner?

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 No.76925>>77211

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I recently made a page to post high scores set on my arcade machines and I'm happy with how it turned out. I kinda cringed when taking the picture, but someone will set a new high score soon enough.

https://maerk.xyz/high-scores/

I want to add more things that give people (even if it's just my friends) a reason to check my website aside from blog posts. Also, I think other pages could use something that breaks up the style a little, but I don't want to overdo it.

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 No.76989>>77069

>>76916
an image editor (for me, Paint.NET)
just create an image with 240x60 dimensions and go from there. for gifs, just create each frame individually and use another tool like ffmpeg to stitch the frames together into an animated gif.

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 No.77035>>77061>>77069>>77130

If I put hentai on my site, would it be excluded from the webring? Are there rules like that?

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 No.77061

>>77035
the webring has no rules (since decentralized), but some members may not include your site

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 No.77069

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>>76911
>i like your site, and i browse it from time to time to get inspiration. So, thank you for including mine.
Thanks :)
>that would be great! i think theres another person besides me who writes and publishes in ar.
Scraped for the `<html lang=` tags, only 53/167 in my list are using the lang attribute. I added locales if you hover over the banners.
>absolutely, it's completely understandable. and rest assured, the site does embrace Japanese (see logo) and the internet culture, also i translate different stuff from jp and en to ar sometimes
translating is good work. Localization is important
>>76916
I either took a screenshot then vectorized it to scale it up or used accessibility tools to get a mega screenshot to scale down. Inkscape and gimp are all you need.
>>76989
you can use imagemagick for this too. Name your files in a way that you can sort them (ie numbers). Something like
<code>
$ convert -resize 50% -delay 10 -loop 1 $(ls *.png | sort) out.gif
</code>
>>77035
>lewd mascot
this is fine
>actual hentai
sometimes I mistype /g/ as /h/. I imagine I would have the same feeling clicking on your link.

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 No.77071>>77204

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>>76893 (OP)
I while back, I toyed with the idea of a Catholic zine that didn't conform to the whole groyper, milquetoast conservative, or popesplainer liberal cringe discourse that we see online. Didn't do much about it, just two half-assed articles, but I might get back into it.
https://tvrrisebvrnea.neocities.org/

I'll add a links section to it.

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 No.77085>>77086>>77168>>77204>>78593>>79175

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I have brought back my site (formerly varchar); it is now at https://alephzero.neocities.org.

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 No.77086

>>77085
I read some of your blog.
Dude, try writing about something positive, like something you have achieved or learned or created.
Also are you seriously telling me you can't understand how it might be the case that some people prefer summer or drinking alcohol?

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 No.77130

>>77035
What's it for? Aesthetics? Reviews/commentary for hentai? Are you a hentai artist showcasing your work?

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 No.77140>>79390

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Former webring member concealed.world is for sale if anyone has a hundred bucks and wants to join the ring wearing someone else's skin
https://dan.com/buy-domain/concealed.world

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 No.77168>>77170

>>77085
I like the design, I read a few posts and I feel some affinity with your style and thoughts. I'll give it a read from time to time, it's what I'd like for my own blog. which I'm not sharing, this is not a transaction.

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 No.77170

>>77168
>I like the design, I read a few posts and I feel some affinity with your style and thoughts.
Thanks, I'm glad.

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 No.77185>>77186>>77201>>77204>>79836

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Hi Frens! Long time lurker, First time poster. Here's my site!
https://digitalvoid.xyz/img/digitalvoid_240x60.png
>Probably going to change button artwork in the future, but my dir isn't going to change.
Enter the event horizon = https://www.digitalvoid.xyz/

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 No.77186

>>77185
Hey fren!
Welcome to the Lainring, I've added you to my copy of the ring (https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/) Glad to hear you're feeling better, keep on writing!

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 No.77201>>77212

>>77185
Very good looking site, but I have a question: In the footer it says that you copyrighted this in 1995, is this real? Like, have you really been blogging for the last 3 decades?

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 No.77203>>77204>>77241

I'm willing to design some 240x60 embed buttons for your site. Send me your links and I'll try to come up with something for it.

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 No.77204>>77208>>77216>>77262

>>77071
>>77085
please add lainchan webring
>>77185
added. Burn out is eternal.
>tor mirror actually works
good fren
>look into i2p mirror
use purple i2pd. It's lighter than the java implementation. I have to restart my i2pd with a daily cron job. It likes to crash on me when I don't.
>>77203
>I'm willing to design some 240x60 embed buttons for your site. Send me your links and I'll try to come up with something for it.
0x19.org. I am curious :)
it does not need to be more creative than a bland screenshot of plan 9

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 No.77208>>77451>>79836

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>>77204
>0x19.org. I am curious :)

Here you go, my friend.

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 No.77211

>>76925


I like the pictures, thanks for sharing your website.

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 No.77212

>>77201
>In the footer it says that you copyrighted this in 1995.
Read it again. I was curious if anyone would pick up on it.
>have you really been blogging for the last 3 decades?
No, I've not been blogging for that long. My site has only been up since ~2021 and I only started blogging in Mar. Figuratively speaking, you could say I've been logging for almost 3 decades. :P

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 No.77216>>77451>>77457>>77461>>77496

>>77204
>please add lainchan webring
https://alephzero.neocities.org/extra/lainchan_webring
I intended my site to be text-only, so I haven't included the banner images.

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 No.77241

>>77203
https://articexploit.xyz/ here, always wanted to have a nice properly designed banner. Would love to see what you can come up with, I might end up using it.

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 No.77262>>77451

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>>77204
Done, sorry for taking so long. It's just below the articles. https://tvrrisebvrnea.neocities.org/

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 No.77372>>77379>>77381>>77388>>77426>>77451>>78071

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How come most of you don't use Github for hosting? I just made a site there, and it's so convenient to just git push your changes and immediately see your changes. All without needing an account on another website or use additional tools. Not sure about custom domain availability via them, though...

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 No.77379>>77389>>77451

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>>77372
>How come most of you don't use Github for hosting?
I lot of people have concerns about the proprietary nature of Github as a platform and it's parent company. A better alternative is to use Codeberg:

>Codeberg is run by a nonprofit organization.

>It's built on top of the FOSS software forge software Forgejo. Forgejo is self hostable, I run my own forgejo instance on my site and you can run it too if you ever wanted to.
>It also supports hosting your own static pages, similar to Github.
>As of recently, Github swallows all of their public code repos and trains them on AI, potentially "washing" GPL code. Some (myself included) take issue with this practice.

As for why one would host on Neocities instead of Github, Neocities is run by a smaller organization (not a non profit though) than Github, and culturally is more focused on websites and web creativity, rather than software projects.

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 No.77381>>77389

>>77372
In terms of pure practicality, it only makes sense if you're okay with not having server-side scripting, real-time writable storage, anything more than a single subdomain, and have no reason to worry about DMCAs (which is never a given these days). Besides, some of us like taking matters into our own hands, handling the entire infrastructure if need be.

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 No.77388>>77389

>>77372
Like the other replies said, github is gay, but also because neocities is more website focused and more professional, so to speak, also, on neocities you get some visibility that you wouldn't github with the tags and stuff

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 No.77389>>77392>>77404

>>77379
>>77381
>>77388
Decided to see if I can get the same convenience by using neocities. I see that they have a CLI tool (https://neocities.org/cli) but it requires me to use Ruby Installer. I don't want to download it just to get a single CLI tool. Is there a standalone binary I can just add to $PATH? Not a fan of blindly installing any software I'm pointed towards and bloat my system.

>>77382

Don't talk to me like I'm a kid. I know about their malicious practices. I just don't care most of the time, and have little to no energy after work to bother learning unix-specific things.

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 No.77392

>>77389
nevermind my dumbass just realized you can just drag and drop a folder's contents on there. This will do.

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 No.77404>>77407

>>77389
>I see that they have a CLI tool (https://neocities.org/cli) but it requires me to use Ruby Installer. I don't want to download it just to get a single CLI tool.
What platform/OS are you using? Usually these languages have a packaging tool that can bundle all of the modules and a copy of the interpreter into a single executable file. I'm not very familiar with the current state of the ruby ecosystem, but I can probably help you set up a build script to bundle everything if needed.

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 No.77407>>77409

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>>77404
I've decided to just stick to drag-and-dropping all files to neocities for the time being, so there's no longer a need for a CLI-based solution.

Still, thank you for the offer. I wasn't expecting the kind gesture. You've brightened up my day a little.

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 No.77409

>>77407
>I've decided to just stick to drag-and-dropping all files to neocities for the time being, so there's no longer a need for a CLI-based solution.
> Still, thank you for the offer. I wasn't expecting the kind gesture. You've brightened up my day a little.
No problem, I'm glad that your existing solution works. This conversion did get me a bit curious though about ruby tooling. If in the future you ever want to try packing the script, this tool will probably work (and for multiple platforms): https://github.com/pmq20/ruby-packer.

The tools for building single file executables for interpreted languages like ruby, python, and perl often take the same approach: Bundle the interpreter, modules/dependencies, and script code into a self extracting executable. When running, the executable extracts the files to a temporary directory, runs the interpreter, loads the modules, and executes the script.

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 No.77426

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>>77372
I have backend needs
t. tmp filehost and arbitrary custom php mess of blog

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 No.77451

>>77208
>bring back the joy of computing
I like this and I find it funny
Thanks! I have added it to my website footer. Let me know if/how you want me attribute it to you.
>>77216
>>77262
added
>>77372
git for vcs: this sparks joy
git for anything else other than a standalone vcs: this makes me want to stab a screwdriver into my own eye
I still use git(lab) but not as my hosting provider.
Setup looks like php test server on a local machine, make commits, ssh to server then run a script that pulls from multiple repos.
A vps is cheap and fun. Server side scripting, databases, tor, i2p, being able to ssh to my server and run irssi within tmux as a crude irc bouncer, playing with inetd, learning more about web stacks, doing funny pranks based on user agent strings, etc are all reasons I prefer a vps over everything else.
I would encourage everyone to assemble a web stack in a vm or on a spare computer sometime. It is a fun exercise that is identical to assembling a web stack on a vps.
>>77379
>why one would host on neocities
certain html tutorials still recommend it. The 'community' atmosphere appeals to an entirely different audience. I also suspect that a drag and drop ui without version control is less intimidating to those of us who have *not* been webshitters and console cowboys for the majority of our lives.

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 No.77457>>77462

>>77216
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS,
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS,
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
GOOD TIDINGS WE BRING TO YOU AND YOUR KIN.
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

sorry i had to do it

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 No.77461>>77495

>>77216
>christmas music is like kicking dead whales down the beach I hate christmas music >actually I like a lot of christmas music just not too much from the last hundred years or so
>also people are too hyperbolic when talking online

I agree with your view of 'the humans' novel, only dumb book I've read in common with you though.

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 No.77462

>>77457
Merry Christmas, to one, and all a' dang-y'all! :D

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 No.77495

>>77461
Generalisation != hyperbole.
>I agree with your view of 'the humans' novel
Good to know that I'm not the only one.

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 No.77496>>77505

>>77216
I was having a good time reading some of your posts and landed on "Summer is the Worst Season". I was nodding inside to all of your points about summer and enjoying someone to share my distaste for the season. And then you dropped the bomb: "The best season is spring. Spring is perfect". There I was, speechless and betrayed, struggling to read further in disbelief. "...snow is overrated" hits like a dagger. You preferred the season of unbearable smells, unstable weather and allergy to the purity and endless beauty of the snowy winter.

In all seriousness, I wish you add RSS to your site. You're probably living in some warmer place and just do not have the real winter. Yes, it's hard and dangerous, but with this price comes the unrivaled grace.

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 No.77505>>78619

I should reword some of my posts (especially the older ones) so I sound like less of an idiot.
>>77496
https://neocities.org/site/alephzero.rss is the RSS feed automatically generated by Neocities.

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 No.77530>>77531>>77533>>77584

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Throughs? Was thinking of hosting this on neocities as a resource for newbies. I haven't finished it yet cuz I want to know what you guys think of it so far and if you're ok with the concept

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 No.77531>>77642

>>77530
Looks great, but I think sizeof has one of those "builders" on his webring copy?

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 No.77533

>>77530
It would be cool if this was put online. I like how it's not associated with anything else so it's easy to find where everything is

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 No.77584

>>77530
if it was online, kept alive, and kept up to date it could work.
I personally like all the different links people put. no formal joining or central place, impossible to get rid of sites since someone will just keep the link up anyway. its the perfect unorganized collection and means there some value in checking other sites for different places to go

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 No.77642

>>77531
the more the merrier!

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 No.78033>>78042>>78064>>78541

hello everyone, I have redesigned https://newdigitalera.org/
It is still incomplete, but has most of the old content. I will be adding new things soon, including a possible webnovel.
You can find the old version here, archived forever https://old2022.newdigitalera.org/
I hope you like it! Let me know what you think. I am aware that it doesn't work on smartphones, but is is what it is. On the other hand, it is much more difficult to scrape fot AI and such, due to how it works.

Also, is there any effort to make a new web festival for this summer? If not, I can look into hosting it again!

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 No.78042

>>78033
I really like the new redesign. The faux desktop environment is something that tickles my fancy, especially since that's a minor interest of mine.

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 No.78064

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>>78033
fancy, some of the symbols are a bit too fancy for my fonts but I like the functionality. always thought the desktop sites were neat

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 No.78071

>>77372
A cheap VPS is five loons, I'd rather learn how to host a webserver privately than let Microsoft use my gorgeous html to train an Ai.

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 No.78083

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* My site: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com OR https://lainnet.arcesia.net
* My RSS: https://lainnet.superglobalmegacorp.com/rss.xml OR https://lainnet.arcesia.net/rss.xml

Hey, long time no see. It's been a... pretty busy year, to put it lightly, but I tried to keep doing interesting things regardless.
For starters, the site is now available under a new domain, and with it come some new subdomains! T (The old superglobalmegacorp.com domain will remain as a HTTPS-only fallback for the main LainNet site, of course). Some of the new pages in question include:

- https://lainnet.arcesia.net : The main LainNet site. Same old, same old, but you might find something interesting if you append "/akichannel" at the end.
- https://lainnet.arcesia.net/cgi-bin/yuichat/ : A deployment of the "YuiChat Cute" Perl based real-time chat program. Was hugely popular during the 2000s in Japan
- https://nt4.arcesia.net : An IIS 3.0 instance on an NT 4.0 Terminal Server. Not much interesting happens here yet
- https://sailorvgame.arcesia.net : A full archive of the now defunct sailorvgame.org website. Tons of old fan-made Sailor Moon game content here!

All of these are also accessible over plain HTTP, for the purpose of supporting older browsers and machines.There's also some new full-size site banners, which I've attached here. One of them is also on the homepage.

The webring page is not that horribly out of date, but it's about time to refresh it a bit.

I should note that I operate the entire infrastructure myself, and that includes the web servers, the DNS, the Exchange Server (yes, really), etc. Don't be surprised if the whole thing ends up going down from time to time

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 No.78191>>78197>>78405>>78541

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recently made a blog to rant about whatever comes to mind.

* url = https://antisocial.moe/
* banner (240x60) = https://antisocial.moe/wp-content/uploads/bannerino.png

it's a simple wordpress

today i added responsive layout for mobile (i made the theme from scratch), next i'll add banners and links n stuff, the index page is pretty empty

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 No.78197>>78206

>>78191
Don't forget to practice playing guitar)))
Also, with regards to vinyl being clunky, what do you mean by that? I guess I sort of see what you're trying to say, but to me the length and slight inconvenience of the process makes me feel more connected to the music. It also gives me some time to take in what I've just listened to while I'm switching to the B side or putting another record on.
Would have sent an e-mail but your address is hidden for Tor users.

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 No.78202>>78541

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I dont have a good banner, I just use the banner in my website and resized it bc i dont have to original file. My website is hosted on Codeberg Pages (I wanna buy my own server and host it there but im fine for now) and im using Zola as a site generator.

url: https://geartoward.jp.net/

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 No.78206

>>78197
>Don't forget to practice playing guitar)))
yea! i like to spend at least 30 minutes a day, but lately i've been feeling so down that it's hard to even do that.

>Also, with regards to vinyl being clunky, what do you mean by that?

i pretty much only listen to music on my computer or phone, so compared to that, vinyl is clunky because it's a separate device. but i really like that experience because it also allows me to disconnect from the computer/phone and JUST listen to music.

>Would have sent an e-mail but your address is hidden for Tor users.


ugh, is it.. cloudflare being annoying? to be honest, i might just get rid of it altogether. i disabled that "hide address" setting since it was on by default and didnt notice it.

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 No.78392>>79435

what happened to yukinu? doesn't load for me anymore :(

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 No.78405>>78434

>>78191
your website is absolutely wonderful, keep doing what you're doing :)

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 No.78431>>78434

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stickers :D
holographic "summer themed" stickers should arrive in a few days

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 No.78434>>78440

>>78431
woa! cute stickers! naomi a cute.

>>78405
thank you for your words, anon.

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 No.78440

>>78434
thank you. stay tuned.

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 No.78469>>78470>>78497>>78541>>78561>>78843

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https://denpa-chan.org/
A small textboard I run

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 No.78470>>78472

>>78469
welcome to the ring u0yknaht0n

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 No.78472>>78473>>78541

>>78470
where can I see the webring? and how can you render opml file? sorry I'm new.

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 No.78473>>78477>>78705

>>78472
usually mine and a couple others are the most updated,
https://articexploit.xyz/ring/
https://sizeof.cat/post/lainring/
https://foreverliketh.is/#2-lainchan-webring
we all have ways to download all the banners with a list of sites and their links, not sure about opml files specifically tho.

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 No.78477

>>78473
Thank you so much and great website! I'm new, loving all this

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 No.78497

>>78469
Nice board. Hope it finds a userbase. Left you a contribution to help out.

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 No.78522>>78525

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>>78519
you do understand you will always have to keep this the most up to date of all rings, if people are intended to use this as main reference. you're already missing denpa-chan

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 No.78525>>78527>>78705

>>78522
Most 'rings' have always skipped imageboards (like 28chan and leftychan), so adding Denpa-chan doesn't quite make sense. If a majority of others decide to include Denpa-chan, I might reconsider and follow suit.

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 No.78527

>>78525
>leftychan
I'm not even sure why this was included in the first place. Personal websites leaning towards a particular slant, I understand, because it's just one dude expressing his own opinions and not necessarily trying to influence the ring as a whole. The inclusion of obviously politically charged imageboards, especially one as notorious for brigading/raiding as leftychan feels sketchy, and generally has an air of "We, at this imageboard, want the webring to represent our views and conform to our politics through our presence in it."

28chan and Denpa-chan (good job on that, by the way, it's a cool *chan) are fine, but generally, I agree with the unspoken thing about not including imageboards in the webring, since there's (in my opinion) supposed to be more of a focus on single-developer hobbyist websites and blogs, and including imageboards kind of undermines that whole "hobbyist community." and that's before you get to the cynical assumption of imageboard owners just wanting to use the ring as a means of generating traffic.

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 No.78534>>78539>>78543

>>78519
hello my site is very much active pls add :3

blog.shr4pnel.com

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 No.78539>>78573>>78574

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>>78534
Your subdomain says "blog", but I see no actual blog on your site. Plus no banner. Plus no copy of the webring. I'm a little confused what you're trying to accomplish here

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 No.78541>>78545

>>78472
>>78033
>* Combined Webring RSS OPML: https://0x19.org/lainring/opml.php
been /o/blivious lately. I have been playing My Summer Car but in real life. 0x19 meta has become "hack together a kludge every day so you can get to work". At some point there will be car soykaf on 0x19. Cars and computers are the same. I really do think that "fix your own car" is in line with hacker culture.
I need to learn more about ECU programming or at least tuning but first I need an ECU I can brick without consequence.
>>78191
>only a subset of lainring
I would like to see more lains
added
>>78202
please add lains
>>78469
I like seeing other people at least trying to build their own thing. It makes me happy despite the hopeless situation.

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 No.78543>>78573

>>78534
added to the alive sites variants

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 No.78545

>>78541
>I would like to see more lains added
agreed, I'd like to rework the webring section. It's incomplete because of personal preferences and having to check out each site in depth. I'm leaning towards having a section for every site + a section for my favorites.

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 No.78548>>78550

>>78528
heres how you can falsify it
prove that there isnt an entire board on that website dedicated to raiding and invasion

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 No.78550>>78552>>78553

>>78548
So everyone who uses the webzone uses and approves of it? Don't you think you're a little too old to still be peddling or falling for the fallacy of attributing the actions of individuals to entire communities? Especially in the age of imageboards and completely untraceable anonymous actors? Are you responsible for every stupid thing said by a poster you don't like by virtue of posting here on lainchain?

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 No.78552

>>78550
the admins approve and encourage it. Yes, this is indicative of an entire community, anyone who doesn't like rubbing digital shoulders with raiding scum would have moved to a better website. It would be completely different if people crated raid threads by themselves.

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 No.78553>>78557

>>78550
>So everyone who uses the webzone uses and approves of it.
The personal - and unverifiable - feelings of the individual users of that website don't come into it. Quit moving the goalposts You may as well be asking "Did everyone in the K.G.B. wholeheartedly approve of that organization's actions?"

Don't you think you're a little too old to be peddling or falling for the fallacy that the actions and intentions of a community are divorced from those of the people in that community? I don't think it's even possible to make the excuse of ignorance, because this is just outright dishonesty. Leftychan is a politically charged imageboard notorious for raiding other websites, with an entire public board dedicated to doing so, with rather explicit political motivations behind it. Denying this is just ignoring objective reality, for the sake of pushing an agenda, and calling everyone else stupid for not thinking the same way you do.

Back to the original point, another reason I don't think Leftychan specifically belongs in this webring, and why I'm glad most of the webring chose not to include it, is because it is a fuarrrking drama magnet, and nothing good for the health of this community will come from any association with it. Literally the barest mention of it is already making a tiny flame war.

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 No.78557

>>78553
I like the part where the only one who even brought this subject up was yourself and now you're calling it a drama magnet. Sounds like you've got some insecurities to interrogate.

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 No.78561>>78582

>>78469 Although it's never a mandate to do so. Perhaps one of those unspoken rules. However, putting the Webring on your site lets others know you respect them enough to promote the Lainchan Webring. Which in turn convinces others to add your site to their listing as well. This completes the cycle of how a webring is supposed to work. You can of course moderate and remove whoever you want. Your site your rules.

It's not impossible for an image board to join. Agora Road has accomplished this task easily. It all comes down to respect yo.

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 No.78573

>>78539
am i having a cryptic tls error again or did you not scroll down? i have several posts up, and my copy of lainch is at the bottom of the page. it's not a full copy, because i'd prefer to curate the pages i have on my page because it's a decentralized webring.

anyone looking at it from the outside and clicking on the page will eventually find a copy of sizeofcat's or yukinu or whoevers full up to date copy

>>78543
thank you !!:)

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 No.78574

>>78539
just troubleshooted after clearing cache, site seems to be hitting a seperate subdomain because nginx will be nginx. i promise i have a blog, but nginx doesn't like hosting it lol

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 No.78582

>>78561
Noted, I'll add a link to the about page.

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 No.78590>>78591>>78615>>78616>>78680>>78700>>78842

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Do you ever feel like you're out of stuff to do or say? I can't think of any changes to make, pages to add, posts to write, etc. All of my arcade machines are working, so there isn't much to "log" anymore. The stickers and the shop page were fun to make, but I'm itching to keep moving. Where do you guys find inspiration?

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 No.78591

>>78590
so sit back, do something different, maybe a cool constructive project, come back and write a blog about it

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 No.78593>>78618

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>>77085
While I agree with some of it, I have some things to say about your Eva review.
>If Eva's plot doesn't matter, why was it made to be so complex?
The way I see it, you're supposed to get into Shinji's head. He's a basically fatherless, early teen with a naturally passive disposition to boot, who's forced into an incredibly stressful and high-stakes position by selfish adults with motivations he doesn't fully understand. I think a resentment towards older people's machinations, is common among Japanese society. How could the audience feel Shinji's disorientation without also being made disoriented?

>The main tonal shift about halfway through is so sudden and awkward that the show seems like two different series mashed together

In the first angel attack, Shinji falls into a coma and his eva goes into a berserk rampage. Every subsequent angel attack was life or death and they made it out by the skin of their teeth. Shinji obviously had issues from the start. So I don't remember an abrupt tonal shift from
>"goofy kids' show with robots" to "explicit portrayal of mental illness and trauma"

>Over the course of the show most of them don't develop; they just keep handling situations the same way.

Learning more about characters fulfills the same purpose as changing them. You definitely understand them better over time.
>the revelation of her past explained her personality well enough to somewhat reduce my hatred
The idea that characters must change for a story to be good, is academic wankery.

>None of the characters achieve or even attempt self-improvement or mutual understanding.

Most agree Ep 25 and 26 take place during the third impact when everybody's mind is melded. The whole reason Shinji made the decision to merge everybody like that, was so that people could understand each other without any barriers getting in the way. A similar segment to those last 2 episode is in the movie itself. In the end, people are a given a choice between staying in the mind pool, or re-gaining the barrier between themselves and others. As for their mood swings, Anno experienced those himself. He was putting himself into the characters. Lots of people relate to that in a way that's impossible with well-adjusted characters who "grow" over time.

>Eva almost had me fooled with its flashy animation and soundtrack and general intensity, but when the adrenaline wore off and I started thinking about what I just just seen, I wasn't so impressed.

Stories aren't suits, and there's no "wrong way" of doing something as dictated by academics. What matters is the effect on the audience. You felt excited and seemingly enjoyed yourself, so Eva accomplished that. A lot of the tropey stuff that annoyed you, added to others' enjoyment. Not everything has to, or should, conform to academic standards of "good storytelling". Why is Eva a masterpiece? Because of its strong effect on the audience and how seminal it is.

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 No.78615

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>>78590
I find it kind of funny to se this often complaint from bloggers that they're "running out of ideas" because I have the opposite problem. I have infinite ideas but not sure if they're good enough or too lazy to do it.

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 No.78616

>>78590

>>78590 is right, just do something else and new ideas will flow into your head automatically.

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 No.78618

>>78593
>I don't remember an abrupt tonal shift
All the darkness of the first half is offset by a ton of annoying comic relief and fanservice, which is absent in the second half.
>Not everything has to, or should, conform to academic standards of "good storytelling"
Sure. There are other works of fiction I've encountered (like SEL, in fact) that don't have conventional storytelling, but that I still enjoyed. It just so happened that the departures from "academic standards" didn't work for me in this case. I think the issue was that I didn't relate enough to the characters.
>seemingly enjoyed yourself
Not really, a great deal of it pissed me off intensely and the parts I did like don't outweigh that.

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 No.78619

>>77505
Yeah, you probably should.

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 No.78680>>78700>>78706>>78758

>>78590
I do, and I think we have a distorded view or understanding of personal web pages. If I'm not wrong, the old internet used to move much slower than present day's internet. It may be that our current expectatation of the web is lots of new content every short time, and is a byproduct of mass social media platforms, which encourage frivolous and low effort blogposting (think of the average social media post - worthless), which have malaccustomed us to it.
The old web used to change much more slowly, you can verify this with the wayback machine. I think the web should return to the old ways, and have some kind of "significancy" filter, so that a "mass social media" situation doesn't repeat.

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 No.78700>>78706

>>78680
>I think the web should return to the old ways, and have some kind of "significancy" filter, so that a "mass social media" situation doesn't repeat.
Literally never happening because TL:DR among other factors The United States alone went from ~15% online to ~95% online in the span of around twenty years.
All we can really do for now is adjust expectations. Hobbyist websites are slower than mass social media, and yeah, >>78590 don't worry about not having anything to say, you don't need to make regular updates to fill the void. Inspiration will come to you when it comes.

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 No.78705

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>>78525
Personally, I have skipped a bunch of websites (especially imageboards), because they posted on the previous threads and didn't mention the webring somewhere or linked other websites, using it just to advertise themselves. That doesn't mean imageboard owners should be discouraged to share their boards here.
By the way, if some imageboard added a link to the webring and I didn't add it in my own copy, it's probably because I forgot it.

>>78473
I try to keep up with the webring threads as much as I can as well. I've been trying to keep it easy these days.

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 No.78706

>>78680
>>78700
It's not that I want to pump out "content" YouTube style, I just like having something to work on. The top of my high score page doesn't look like much, but it was fun making that Hugo shortcode and drawing Naomi in a dress. I randomly have ideas for cool stuff like making the accent color of the "latest post" blurb change color depending on the section it's posted in, but for now I'm just waiting for the next cool idea. Speaking of wanting something to work on, I nearly bought a really fuarrrked up Sega Aero City but ultimately decided not to.

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 No.78753

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hello frens i have a new theme yet again
add urself at https://github.com/SevensRequiem/requiem.moe/tree/main/webring

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 No.78758>>78762

>>78680
The internet went downhill as soon as myspace/facebook began connecting an internet profile with someone's actual irl identity.
Companies realized the *profit* they could make by selling and exploiting people's data.

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 No.78762>>78772

>>78758
People were using their real names, work emails, and even addresses on usenet way before myspace,facebook, and that one turkish site nobody remembers showed up

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 No.78772

>>78762
>that one turkish site nobody remembers
you mean orkut?

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 No.78842>>78848>>78860

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Hey, does anyone have a list of RSS links for the lainchan webring?

I recently learned what it was and added RSS to my site. It's really comfy.

>>78590
Never, EVER. Docker, databases, archiving software, frontend for ffmpeg and ytdlp, scrapers, building other websites and services that actually do things besides communicating self authored information, documenting, enhancing security and privacy with dns over https, grapheneos, linux hardening, etc. etc.the list goes on and on and never stops. Ever.

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 No.78843

>>78469
please unblock tor exit nodes :(

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 No.78848>>78860


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 No.78860

>>78842
>>78848
The 0x19 version has moar feeds
https://0x19.org/lainring

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 No.78968>>78995>>78996>>79032

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 No.78995>>78996

>>78968
Why do you use Gmail?

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 No.78996>>78999>>79046

>>78968
this is straight up a store

>>78995
probably a requirement to sign up as an Ebay seller

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 No.78999>>79063

>>78996
>this is straight up a store
And even so, the webmaster didn't add the lainring on its site, very lame

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 No.79032

>>78968
added anyway vnice, shame I'm not in us
- xn-neko

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 No.79046>>79051

>>78996
I'm pretty sure i've sold on ebay with a custom domain before, gmail is probably a conscious choice (which is crazy to me!)

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 No.79051

>>79046
Is definitely sketchy given that he's catering to schizos and ideologues with the custom motherboard firmware and monero payments.

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 No.79063

>>78999
I think in the OP for the next thread there should be a line telling people to host a copy of the webring, and probably a link to some of the hosts with more comprehensive, frequently updated copies.

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 No.79168>>79435

Yukinu, just wanted to let you know that your site and thread RSS feed have been down for a while

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 No.79175>>79176>>79177>>79178>>79179>>79188>>80085

>>77085
Yikes, I think you seriously need help.

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 No.79176>>79207

>>79175
I take it you didn't read the rest of the dislikes list, which includes "easily offended people" and "oversocialised people".

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 No.79177>>79178

>>79175
there are more than a few insane people on the webring
i like it, it adds flavor

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 No.79178>>79179>>79188

>>79175
>>79177
don't get how these are particularly "insane" takes to be honest
would expect lainons to be more open to non-mainstream points of view

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 No.79179>>79180>>79181>>79182>>79186

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>>79178
its not the takes that are insane. The takes are "I want to like in a society without gender distinctive clothing" and "I don't like dogs". Tame by all standards. Its the writing style, justifications, and presuppositions that take you from here to >>79175 where the insanity lies.

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 No.79180>>79183

>>79179
Maybe some of it is just the red text on black background, kind of creates an expectation of edginess

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 No.79181>>79182>>79183>>79186

>>79179
your webm, those are magpies. not as intelligent as ravens, but prettier.

as for the website, it has a distinct smell of personality disorder. i don't know which one, but i can tell they're chronically an asshole, whether they intend to be or not.

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 No.79182>>79183>>79186

>>79179
>>79181
following up, they like goth. that's a pretty dead giveaway they're some kind of fuarrrked in the head.
punk and all its offshoots were made for and by rejects.

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 No.79183>>79185>>79186

>>79180
picrel is an article from their blog but using firefox's reader mode. You can draw your own conclusions.

>>79181
fixed the filename, I think I just wrote raven because I didn't know what it was. thanks.

>>79182
thats post-columbine rhetoric. its difficult to generalize 'people who like x' because people like the same things for different reasons.

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 No.79185>>79208

>>79183
>thats post-columbine rhetoric. its difficult to generalize 'people who like x' because people like the same things for different reasons.
true, most metal enthusiasts i've met are totally sane people. i singled out goth because i haven't gotten over my ex who turned gay back in 2014.
>>79183
>fixed the filename, I think I just wrote raven because I didn't know what it was. thanks.
i didn't want to be the douchebag to correct you, but i am very passionate about corvids.
>>79184
>I thought that Lainchan of all places would be understanding of annoyance at mindsets/practices that are near-inescapably enforced by society. It's not a "personality disorder".
disorder means a deviance from "normal" pattern. disorder is disorder, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing, in fact, being a little deranged is good for thinking differently. that dog paragraph combined with his other likes/dislikes however does throw a red flag telling not to trust them for anything but knowledge.

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 No.79186>>79189

>>79182
I just like the music because it sounds cool. I'm not so much into the fashion, except for wearing all black (though that was more inspired by Gary Numan and Kraftwerk).
>>79179
>>79181
While it's not confirmed, it's likely that I have autism. Don't know if that counts as a personality disorder.
Evidently my writing style comes across as hostile when I just thought I was being matter-of-fact. In real life, I am fairly polite and keep to myself, and I use the website to be more expressive. Some things I post, like the dog paragraph and >>79183, are angry but most of them aren't.

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 No.79188

>>79175
I agree. Very cringe takes.
>>79178
They're stupid, sick, and contrarian.

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 No.79189>>79197

>>79186
I find it funny more than anything. I think its not the hostility you're catching flak for but the matter-of-factness (as you state) with which you state your positions on topics you excessively simplify.

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 No.79195>>79199

The level of outrage over this is confusing. How have you pearl-clutchers survived the internet long enough to end up on an obscure imageboard?

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 No.79197>>79198>>79212

>>79189
I don't get why people are so mad. This reminds me of when I was on Discord years ago and multiple people criticised my use of full stops as "threatening".
What am I supposed to do, add a bunch of disclaimers about how I'm aware that I don't know everything, my opinions are subjective and personal, and other perspectives exist? I dislike when people do that, it's redundant and I want them to get straight to the point.

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 No.79198

>>79197
i am pretty sure only one or two are mad, some are just concerned, most are confused why it's such a big deal, and i am having a good time watching this train wreck.

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 No.79199>>79205

Nobody who writes "yikes" or "cringe" has any right to call others obnoxious. It's his site, he can put what he wants. If you don't like it, don't put his banner on your site. This isn't the place for unprompted, self-fellating character attacks.
>>79195
I guess reddit is crawling out from the wood work.

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 No.79204

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 No.79205>>79206>>79209

>>79199
Reddit would surely agreed with his take on crossdressing. Especially the "we shall end gender roles and human decency lulz" part of it. I don't know about the dog hatred, though. Maybe that's too overboard, even for Redditors. I also find it funny how you're trying to paint the people criticizing him simultaneously as users for being "butthurt", and ebil bullies for "attacking" him. Overall, I believe he should recognize that free speech (which he also supports) doesn't mean freedom from criticism, specially when it comes to unpopular opinions like these.

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 No.79206>>79214

>>79205
It's not the opinions, it's the attitude. The appeals to normalcy, the lingo and the dogpiling. Call them redditors, twatters, 4chinners whatever. They're all malignant cunts. I criticized his eva review earlier in this thread. There difference between criticizing opinions and being a condescending cunt is obvious.

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 No.79207>>79209

>>79176
"Don't like muh opinion? You must be a SNOWFLAKE."
Holy kek the contradictions in your philosophy

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 No.79208

>>79185
dated person inclined to become gay and goth in 2014, meaning likely female because gay doesn't become gay. interest in magpies and corvids. personality evinced by post similar. i likely know who you are.

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 No.79209>>79214

>>79205
>recognize that free speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism
I know that. Saying "yikes", "cringe", "insane", and "personality disorder" is hardly criticism.
>"we shall end gender roles and human decency lulz"
What in the paragraph is against "human decency"? It explicitly condemns immodesty and bad taste.
>>79207
You don't have to like my opinion. However, if your objection consists of social media buzzwords and fails to address the opinion itself, I will not take you seriously.

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 No.79212

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>>79197
I didn't imply you should change it. What you write is authentic to you, and you need no disclaimer stating the universally human characteristics you describe.

Also me reading the recent posts

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 No.79214

>>79206
>>79209
I see. In my opinion, the reason for this reaction is just that alephnull seemed to overly rationalize things that are traditionally well accepted in those entries. There are a lot of things that don't make sense if you think too much about it but are essential to our society to function, like marriage, or having children. Pets and gender roles are also among those things, they've also been here since the dawn of men. It's very different from an NGE review.

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 No.79219>>79230>>79231>>79277>>79281>>79288

really want to put my site but too lazy to actually build it up. I know very little HTML and yet I want it to look nice (like Luke Smith's site for example)

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 No.79230

>>79219
You will never possess a nice looking website.

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 No.79231>>79273>>79281

>>79219
start out with chat gpt. that'd what i did, eventually i got the hang of it

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 No.79273>>79275

>>79231
in this niche internet imageboard we disavow the usage of chatgpt

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 No.79275>>79276

>>79273
Why? I understand being against in the case of using it to write blogs and other content, but I don't see anything wrong with using it to learn how to design HTML and CSS

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 No.79276>>79279

>>79275
not him, to be honest I don't really see whats wrong with it either, but lets be honest there's like a billion and a half ok examples of HTML/CSS you can look like and only slightly less than that number of alright HTML/CSS tutorials. ChatGPT is just the latest icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the icing on the cake that gives you no excuse for not being able to make a website.

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 No.79277>>79281>>79285

>>79219
HTML/CSS are relatively easy, especially something like Luke's site (his stylesheet is cleanly laid out, which helps in learning from it). You'll have most of your page together pretty quickly and then waste hours trying to figure out how to animate the border of a button, or get image embeds to scale to exactly the size you want, or something.

I'd suggest making a list of sites that you like the look of, figuring out how they implemented certain features (view page source, see their HTML, open the CSS it links) and then keeping your own little dictionary. You'll likely want to confine yourself to small sites, since most others fetch some giant template (like materialize css) that's been minified and is horrible to read and deciper (and even if you look at the original stylesheet, it's quite annoying to dig through). Although, not every template site is like that. S-Config uses what looks like a wordpress template, but it's well-marked and he doesn't hotlink it.

First try to make some text, some boxes, embed an image, change font size, make a border and change the colour of it, etc, just to make sure you understand how a page goes together. Then you can sketch out what the site should approximately do on paper or in Krita or whatever. Learn how to do harder things as you need them. For example, I implemented desktop/mobile layouts using @media and checking the width measured in em in order to decide when to snap between layouts. I have clickable buttons that use hover and not(:hover) for some basic graphics and dropdown menus on mouse hover. I only learned how to do that stuff because I specifically wanted it.

Some stuff is kind of annoying. If you want to stack things, have elements that pop up and draw over other things, etc. it can get kind of annoying figuring out how to nest everything. At a certain point, your design wants and technical ability will both adjust until they approximately match each other and you'll have a page that you're mostly happy with.

Some webring sites that might be nice to learn from:
https://0x19.org/
https://articexploit.xyz/
https://datura.network/
https://vendell.online/
https://navyjoecomics.neocities.org/

My site is
https://bass2nick.com/
It's a little janky with some inline CSS that I should really replace, but it works and I can explain it. More importantly, I can use what I learned putting this together to make another site more quickly and with less vestigial clutter in the code.

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 No.79279>>79280>>79282

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>>79276
It's honestly easy to make a nice looking site just by limiting the scope. A site that servers static content sure as hell doesn't need any overly fancy styling. If anything I suggest that one sticks to maintaining support for really old browsers, like those from the late 90s and early 00s as an added challenge. That's what I set out to do when styling http://pc98.ne.jp

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 No.79280>>79286

>>79279
You might find this file collection on my site useful. There's software tools and the like in the アプリ folder.
https://fukumen.mooo.com/content/PC-98_collection/

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 No.79281

>>79219
just start. Minimize scope. Depending on your end goal, you can get away with using a static site generator forever and never directly touching html unless you decide to interpolate it into your markdown. (luke smith uses hugo but there are a billion https://jamstack.org/generators/ pick one and proceed to suffer)
I prefer server side scripting but I used jekyll in the past and even wrote my own static site generator using pandoc and shell scripts. I need to write about it eventually but it's shell hell so I'd have to relearn how it even works.
>>79231
>start out with chat gpt
instead, go to a website you like and read the source code. This is better because you know it will actually work and also because you can do proper attribution if you're including something complicated.
>>79277
>0x19
this is an anti-design philosophy inspired by werc. Uriel was right. It's PHP with HTML, pages use responsive css but default to something at least readable in the event that a browser does not support css. "Improving" the style wouldn't be too hard. Feel free to clone the entire thing and fiddle. It's there to learn from.

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 No.79282>>79286

>>79279
Wouldnt it be possible to make a site work on old browsers without limiting functionality of modern browsers? Like a sort of fallback replacement for different components depending on browser and version? That would be a challenge in it's own.

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 No.79285

>>79277
thanks for the tip. I checked the source code for those pages and somewhat know what's going on now. lots of "div"s to split the page into different sects

mine isn't that complicated. just want a navigation (home, about me, blog, etc) on top, then want the body to be just text. the home button I want links to a few pages on the top, and then my newest blog posts at the bottom, kinda like how Luke did it.

my site is neocities btw

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 No.79286>>79421

>>79282
You could probably tell the web server to serve entirely different content based on the identified user agent. Though that assumes you have access to the web server's configuration, which pretty much no free hosting service will let you meddle with.
>>79280
We have nearly all of it archived in one way or another, but thanks for the heads up anyway.

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 No.79288>>79289

>>79219
ok since no one has said it yet JUST fuarrrkING INSPECT PAGES THAT YOU LIKE AND DOWNLOAD THEM, EVEN. fuarrrkING CTRL+SHIFT+C, OR RIGHT CLICK, AND HIT INSPECT. LOOK AT HOW THEY CODE THEIR WEBSITES, AND TEST OUT THE CODE YOURSELF OFFLINE IN YOUR WEB BROWSER MAN, SHIT. LOOK UP TUTORIALS ON HOW TO CODE HTML, IT'S EASY YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING.

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 No.79289

>>79288
I think people see some of the theming on existing websites and get intimidated by their apparent complexity. From my experience its 80% design (not coding) and 20% implementation.

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 No.79295

>>79292
I was just making an observation. Also you can totally learn design, like any art.

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 No.79297

>>79296
Not that lainon, but I tell that to the face of soykafload of people (both students and parents) as a teacher: it's about learning, not about taste, talent or any other bs. It doesn't mean you will get good at design — that requires dedication and quite a lot of work, which you might decide to not dedicate to this. It means pretty much anyone can become decent at it if they put enough effort. And saying "no study is going to make you good at it" is simply wrong.

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 No.79320>>79322>>79328>>79360>>79370

File: 1723659715459-0.png (2.97 KB, 240x60, 4:1, webring-banner.png) ImgOps iqdb

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Hashchan.network is an imageboard designed to be tolerant to gpt botnet swarms by hiding inside ethereum event logs and hotlinking images to preferably ipfs pinning services. With no central server the client is runnable locally with npm run dev jn the web folder and an rpc connection either from a cloud provider or your own archive node. Built with react typescript viem and hardhat for the smart contract.

No token, no cuts, no cloudflare, captchas or ads.

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 No.79322

File: 1723662429351-0.gif (8.05 KB, 240x60, 4:1, banner-gif.gif) ImgOps iqdb

>>79320
Had to do a gif version

Hashchan.network
Github.com/hashchan

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 No.79328>>79356

>>79320
cool concept, wish i knew a thing about ETH and crypto in general but it's cool to see something made using it that isn't designed to scam stupid people.

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 No.79356

>>79328
Thanks for having a look anon, hopefully this wins the award for most cypherpunk image boarzld

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 No.79360>>79369

>>79320
Is there a way to make disposable wallets to connect to WalletConnect, in order to interact with the website? Naturally I don't want my crypto wallet to be associated with my posting activity (is it even possible to connect a MyEtherWallet running off of a personal node?).

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 No.79369

>>79360
Id say theres 3 levels of psudoanon
Low. Transfer a bunch to random wallets you own, to make it take time/effort to trace back to your original wallet
Medium. Transfer to a new wallet from a centralized exchange so anons just see something like 'coinbase 4' on the tx history
High. Use a mixer like tornado cash

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 No.79370>>79372

>>79320
It's still in beta, but from the sound of it, you might be interested in Autonomi. To put it simply, it's a network that has decentralized, automated and immutable storage. It works like this: you pay to upload data, the data is encrypted and split into pieces that are duplicated and distributed to nodes. When copies of a piece go offline, new copies are made automatically. Nodes are rewarded when data is retrieved from them proportional to their uptime.

https://docs.autonomi.com/learn/introduction/a-self-organizing-system
>Inspired by the self-organisational prowess of ants, Autonomi creates a secure, resilient network of devices, connected and governed by simple rules yet capable of storing, protecting and delivering humanity's data in perpetuity without any human involvement at all.

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 No.79372

>>79370
Very nice, thanks for sharing anon, decentralized db replication has come up several times at the day job, going to read what code i can find sometime this week

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 No.79390

>>77140
They changed domain and it doesnt seem like they wanna do anything relating to lainchan
https://meth.cat/

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 No.79421>>79432

>>79286
>Though that assumes you have access to the web server's configuration, which pretty much no free hosting service will let you meddle with.

There's a lot of free PHP hosts out there, and you can use $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'] to get ahold of the UA.

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 No.79432

>>79421
not to mention, a raspberry pi can host a site for next to nothing if you have a static IP and can forward ports in your router configuration. failing that, i see VPSs go for as little as £2 monthly, which can absolutely handle ~1000 MAUs

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 No.79433>>79481>>79486

File: 1724258309453-0.png (749.49 KB, 1333x925, 1333:925, libwitch.PNG) ImgOps iqdb

RIP Liberty Witch, after the blog being down for a while now it was scooped up by some chinese stuff

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 No.79435>>79439

File: 1724261288407-0.png (7.15 KB, 290x290, 1:1, yukinu.png) ImgOps iqdb

>>78392
>>79168
Sorry anons, my site was down for a while. I needed a break from my site and my technology. I had spent a lot of time refactoring and cleaning up tech debt, only to end up unsure of what I even want to do with my site. So I stepped back for a month to recuperate and rebuild my passion for technology. I'm back now though, hopefully I wasn't gone too long, and sorry for the broken thread RSS feed!

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 No.79439

>>79435
thanks for update, yukinon. glad to have you back!

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 No.79481

>>79433
another one bites the dust

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 No.79486

>>79433
o7
I'll use a link from the webarchive on my copy of the webring

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 No.79536>>79603

https://gayniggersfromouterspace.neocities.org
Another one bites the dust, was it derezzed or deleted?


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 No.79603>>79604

>>79536
I mean, it was a neocities page with gore and porn last time I remembered viewing it. Wouldn't be surprised if that was against the rules and it got derezzed

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 No.79604

>>79603
There was no gore, only edgy memes and porn

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 No.79664>>79668

Can someone recommend a cheap VPS that allows SMTP?

I was using Vultr but they denied my ticket to allow mail.

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 No.79668>>79678>>79687

>>79664
kts24 might be a good pick. They discontinued their HDD plans sadly, but for SMTP their cheapest Ryzen SSD offering should do the trick. I've been able to run Exchange 5.5 and SMTP no problem with them.

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 No.79673>>79677

>>79592
>nxdomain
well, that didnt last long
what was there?

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 No.79677

>>79673
No actual content but some good links

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 No.79678>>79679>>79786

>>79668
what are you running Exchange 5.5 for? am I not mistaken in thinking 5.5 is >20 years old?

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 No.79679>>79689

>>79678
if this is who i think it is, IrcX server and NT4 webpages.
hi spaz

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 No.79687

>>79668
I'll have a look thanks, everyone I was finding was doing the please give us your name and phone number and blood type and let us share it with our super trustworthy advertising friends crap

>Really good stream of consciousness all day about something

>Pull out notebook: it stops
>Uninterrupted thought about something on the way home, perfectly formed, even got the title and headings figures out
>Get home, open computer: its gone
I need to start recording myself autist mumbling

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 No.79689

>>79679
Why so Microsoft ;_;
Also, if you're thinking I'm spaztron, I'm not ;)

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 No.79782>>79783

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hallo! I already added the webring to my website, now its time to share my website along with you lainons!

https://vim user.net

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 No.79783>>79794

>>79782
It fuarrrking censored the link Im killing myself

https://[email protected]
@ = a

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 No.79786

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>>79678
For funsies of course, what else! Security be damned!
(Also random IBrowse screenie)

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 No.79794

>>79783
I wonder...
https://vimf%41g.net/ this might still be clickable without hitting the filter.

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 No.79803>>79807>>79894

man, the Lainchan Web Festival is abandoned as fug, yo! i can't even direct link to the original cause of the desktop style for the site :(

will none of you take up the mantle..?

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 No.79807

>>79803
I would like to see it continue but I'm afraid I'd blow it if I hosted.

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 No.79836>>79840>>79862

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returning lain here!

ive been inactive and a lurker for a while, so im back here to update my button, as well as chug through this thread to add everyone to my page :3

https://crystepsi.neocities.org (should redirect to crystepsi.com)

>>77185
i literally just found you while surfing the net! awesome site. to be specific, i found your onion mirror >:3

>>77208
and i found you by surfing! the net is feeling very cosy tonight!

keep up the good work everyone!

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 No.79837>>79838>>79842>>79862

>tfw you can remember when pt.1 of this thread was made
What is the typical workflow/tools for a webdev in current year to make a website manually (front end creation mainly, but latest backend techniques/trends if you are aware also)?
I heard that new fangled SASS beat that other rival tech, and you don't use Macromedia Dreamweaver with Flash & Photoshop anymore?
>y u no search interwebz?
I'm interested in hearing the opinions of lainons working as web developers rather than curated cookie-cutter templates from search engines, pushing sponsored website template adverts. I'd love to hear from those who still work in the field. Search engine results have a neutered veneer over them that neither knows nor cares about the reasons or nuances for underlying trend changes in webdev technology.
t. ex-website author
P.S. Netscape alpha with inline JPEGs really was a game changer after all!

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 No.79838>>79862>>79984

>>79837
id like to say that i take a manual approach to making my site, in that everything is done by hand (fingertips?) through the neocities code editor. id claim that this is to keep it simple, but honestly i just never figured out how to ftp into my neocities account '^-^

for graphics i opt for gimp and a few sites which have tools for creating blinkies and banners (such can be found on my bookmarks page)

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 No.79840>>79844

>>79836
interesting website, although your derezzed doesn't really fit the specified size. Please submit one with the correct size and I'll be happy to add you!
>240x60

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 No.79842>>79984

>>79837
i freelance in web development and i've been making websites (mostly backend) for the last 5 years. i'm no designer but when i need to be i use a tool called figma to design layouts for different screen sizes, then manually port it to HTML and CSS. if content needs to change i use whichever SSG fits, often jekyll, and fire it to rebuild on change using a github webhook.

then i just use try_files with nginx to serve the html files raw rather than proxied by a traditional webserver. works well for me and uptime is great as long as you don't make the same ipv6 fuarrrkups i did lol

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 No.79844>>79845

>>79840

oops, my bad, this should do it

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 No.79845

>>79844
Oh hey! Welcome back!

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 No.79861>>79862

File: 1726663478086-0.png (4.03 KB, 240x60, 4:1, torpus.png) ImgOps iqdb

Hey lains!

I'm https://torpus.info/ and my website got down for a while, so now I've added some stuff in it and brought back the lainring on my site.

Also I've updated my banner. Please change it to this new one on your sites )))

FYI I'm additionally not on Tor anymore.

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 No.79862>>79984

>>79837
>"what is a website? we just have a facebook page"
The people who still have a real website seem to have migrated away from wordpress/drupal and have started using wix or similar. I still tell /nocoders/ to use wordpress and avoid installing plugins and themes without auditing them first.
Ruby on Rails was popular for a while.
Now it seems to be more nodejs slop.
I still run php. It makes templates easier. I typically write in html or markdown then use lowdown or pandoc to convert it to html. Some regex is involved. No one has ever paid me to do webdev. I am considering doing a CGI rewrite of my site in C in order to begin migrating away from the web and towards something less full of soul crushing despair.
>>79836
>>79838
added.
neocities has a ruby client. It's not git or git-like so it might be painful. I think it is non destructive (ie changing a file locally will not change the remote file) which can be annoying.
https://thewikion.neocities.org/wiki/neocities_cli
>pisscord
look into matrix. It's only a metadata aggregation machine if you don't run your own nodes.
>>79861
updated

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 No.79863

mhm yep that works, added you!

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 No.79864>>79869>>79987

File: 1726688584372-0.png (4.41 KB, 240x60, 4:1, banner.png) ImgOps iqdb

Lots of cool designs, I'll try to browse the ring a bit more. Let me add mine to the pile!

https://world-playground-deceit.net/

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 No.79869>>79873>>79950

>>79864
I like the design. You might like NsCDE which is inspired by CDE but actually runs on modern systems.
Please add the webring :)

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 No.79873

>>79869
Only like the graphic design of CDE, currently rocking bspwm. I'll add the ring this week-end, probably.

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 No.79894>>79935

>>79803
here you go friend
https://old2022.newdigitalera.org/articles/lainchan-web-festival-march-2024-review.html

The old website is archived in the old2022 subdomain

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 No.79935

>>79894
thank u, fren. apologies, i totally forgot u had mentioned that. regardless, if no one grows a pair in a month or 2, I promise i'll do it myself

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 No.79936>>79937>>79943>>79944>>79987

File: 1726880123207-0.gif (521.18 KB, 240x60, 4:1, PsychcoolBanner.gif) ImgOps iqdb

Hello, I've updated my domain name from https://psychcool.neocities.org/ to https://psychcool.org/

New RSS Feed is here:

https://psychcool.org/index.xml

I've also updated my banner.

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 No.79937

>>79936
Yo if none of u fuggers have seen psychool's youtube video, u should check it out...

Basic Guide to the Personal Web
https://youtu.be/zswyWBtF-7Y

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 No.79943>>79944

>>79936
Pretty cool website! A few suggestions:
* Your background takes a few seconds to load here, try to reduce its size. oxipng gave me 22% of gains (and 35 on one of the bubbles). Maybe try to reproduce it in SVG? It's displayed in gray but stored in RGB, which is a massive waste too; EDIT: oh, saw that this was for no-JS people, cheeky!
* https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpsychcool.org%2Findex.xml
* I guess that's part of the style that you can only guess what's an <a> by hovering?
* On https://psychcool.org/cs, I don't understand what the "Creations" box means. For a microsecond, I thought this was your own portfolio.

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 No.79944

>>79936
>>79943
Ah, and progressively encoded PNG/JPG would be a good idea for those backgrounds. Maybe an imgset with AVIF as first choice too, while waiting for widespread JPEG XL.

Especially the humongous https://psychcool.org/CSS/DoodleLinks.png

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 No.79950

>>79869
Added the webring (and made some cool changes to my generator, god it's nice to be able to create new tags with spinneret).

https://world-playground-deceit.net/links/webrings/lainring.html

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 No.79951

>Website finally done, set up, live with email and everything
>Its ugly as sin and I hate everything I've written

Well, onto the next hyperfixation
Moving to an SSG was a mistake

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 No.79957>>79970>>79987

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 No.79970>>79971

>>79957
yukinu (and potentially some more) is alive

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 No.79971

>>79970
It just timeouts here, strange... https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/yukinu.com.html seems to agree.

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 No.79981>>79983>>80006

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https://milkyfiles.neocities.org/
I don't know if this thing is still going.

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 No.79983>>79987>>79995>>80006

>>79981
No page for the webring?

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 No.79984>>79987

>>79838
>>79842
>>79862
Thank you for your responses, they are very helpful, especially mentioning SSG.
I recall when javascript was an optional light dressing on an otherwise complete meal, now it seems closer to ramen or rice.
By way of a thank you I deposit a web gem - a FOSS frontends list: farside.link

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 No.79987

>>79864
added
>>79936
updated my list
>>79957
This is your yearly reminder to make sure your domain names will actually auto renew and to check if your hosting provider is still getting paid.
Some on this list are still alive. Scroll up and you will see that admins have said in this very thread that they are taking a break for a while.
I am more concerned about the types of websites that make 2 blog posts then get abandoned forever. I don't think this is the "small web" or the "personal web" or whatever the latest meme is. It's just the web. We all become busy and don't have time to write high effort blog posts every week. It's somewhat depressing, however, to click through the entire webring just to see ~10-15 out of ~150 sites that are even remotely alive.
>>79983
this is why I never added it.
>>79984
It's not too difficult to make your own SSG.

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 No.79995

>>79983
sorry, i forgot to make the page
but im doing it right now, im currently compressing the images and converting them cause i dont use gifs or jpgs in my website

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 No.80006>>80014

>>79981 >>79987 >>79983 >>79995
Here it is: https://milkyfiles.neocities.org/webrings/lainchan
We still need to do some manual work on the banners to make them smaller and maybe use an external file thingy to store the images since the images are 120 times (6mb) bigger than everything else and would be bigger (500 times) if I didn't convert them to PNG (I really recommend doing that since PNGs are smaller than GIFs and can also be animated and don't destroy performance in bigger sizes).

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 No.80007

does anyone know what happened to Torchan?

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 No.80014>>80015

>>80006
Cool, I'll add yours soon! You're missing mine though.
I suggest not touching the size, as a significant amount of banners was made in a pixel art fashion, and small text will suffer from any kind of scaling.

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 No.80015>>80020

>>80014
i used the stuff that was on the ultimatelain site
I guess ill crawl the thread for the ones missing later
what is your website?

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 No.80016>>80019>>80024>>80161>>80163

Someone could try and make it easier for people to use the webring in some way.
This webring is going to be annoying to maintain individually. Specially considering there doesn't seem to be one person verifying everything everytime at the end of the time.

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 No.80017


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 No.80019>>80024>>80158>>80161

>>80016
I guess 0x19's git is the nearest thing to a centralized effort. It should be stickied and MRs made to it, I suppose. OR less vulnerable to bus factor issues, we could mandate a posting format in this thread to add/remove/suspend from the list and I'd make a script to crawl it.

https://gitlab.com/binrc/lainring

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 No.80020

>>80015
>>79864

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 No.80024>>80075

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>>80016
>>80019
The entire point is to be decentralized. The fun part is lurking with lains.
>crawler
Right click->pin tab is what I do.
>there is not one person verifying everything
Fragmentation provides soulfulness. Since everyone's copy is different, it incentivizes readers to actually click through and explore other sites
>centralizing on my repo
I manage my site's content with git. Nothing is stopping you from writing a cron job that pulls from my repo automatically. If you run php on your server already, submit MRs, and don't disappear after 3 blog posts I would probably add you as a maintainer to the repo because it would be mutually beneficial. To be very clear, I do not want to centralize the decentralized webring. We can't take the lainchan out of the lainchan webring.
>but I want something else that's 100% automated and git based with a single authority
Email me. I have a few ideas.

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 No.80075>>80101

>>80024
concurring with this, centralizing is a bad idea. there are pages on the ring that i dislike, maybe for their politics or views, which means i don't have to have them on my site.

centralizing makes the ring privy to whoever controls the repo. best way to do lainring is to add the sites you'd like, and if you don't want to there are plenty of lains who have downloadable button packs and RSS OPMLs

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 No.80085>>80101

>>79175
no no, he makes some good points

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 No.80101>>80105>>80157>>80196

>>80075
Doesn't ultimatelain solve this problem already? You can just get one of the variants with the sites you like from there and remove the ones you dislike.
>maybe for their politics or views
I don't mean to get political but I'm curious, did you remove left-wing or right-wing sites? If you don't feel like answering directly you can just tell me what's your site and I'll be able to guess.
>>80085
Dogs are cool and "crossdressing" being normalized sounds like a formula for a dysfunctional society.

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 No.80105>>80107

>>80101
> I don't mean to get political but I'm curious, did you remove left-wing or right-wing sites? If you don't feel like answering directly you can just tell me what's your site and I'll be able to guess.

i don't care if someone leans right or left, none of my business but when someone has washikas and hortler all over their site or has a shrine to mao or some soykaf then i don't want to advertise it

i know someone is going to call me coal or retarded for saying this but i just don't want any extremists on my site whatsoever, i have stuff online because i like chatting with people over email and finding new music and interracting with all sorts of people, and i grew out of that way of thinking when i was 14

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 No.80107

>>80105
>washikas and hortler
I'm assuming you're talking about tard.zone which is understandable but I think that guy is just a troll
>mao
No idea
Either way, I'm still curious on what's your site

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 No.80157>>80159>>80160

>>80101
>crossdressing being normalized sounds like a formula for a dysfunctional society
Why? It's just wearing clothes. You're probably conflating it with transgenderism.

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 No.80158>>80179

File: 1727643820773-0.gif (240.92 KB, 640x400, 8:5, BQ8Y.gif) ImgOps iqdb

updated the website and made it responsive for mobile.

updated the webring page entirely to stay updated using 0x19's git. mentioned here >>80019

finally, i was able to create the blog page today. im gonna write about music, gaming, old tech and linux stuff.
still no rss yet because im still lazy about it x)

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 No.80159>>80180

>>80157
clothes are indicators of social status, profession etc etc etc. A man shouldn't be allowed to wear the uniform of a woman any more than a lieutenant may wear that of a general or a cadet.

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 No.80160>>80162

>>80157
With crossdressing becoming common-place, we'd lose a sense of normalcy, and I don't think that's a fair trade. The loss of traditional values in general eventually leads to a dysfunctional society, and gender roles are at the core of it. Just to illustrate my point, can you imagine the norms of the 1950s co-existing with normalized crossdressing?

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 No.80161>>80165>>80179

>>80016
>>80019
you guys missed >>78519?

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 No.80162>>80165>>80179

>>80160
>The loss of traditional values in general eventually leads to a dysfunctional society
Traditional values led to a dysfunctional society. I'm amazed a traduser even made it to a site like this.

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 No.80163>>80165>>80166

If I can really overturn society by wearing dresses, I will buy a dozen right now.

>>80016
For another small (non-HTML. recursive) webring, I've made a simple crawler to produce a status page, showing the full known webring, who connects to others and who is omitted by some. It's helped with maintenance, particularly knowing easily who to reach out to when there's an error.

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 No.80165>>80166

>>80162
Blatant lying
>a site like this
I like this site but it isn't as great as you make it out to be
>>80163
Things like this are what makes our society suck in the first place... you're not the cool revolutionary you think you're.
Either way, this is irrelevant to the thread
>>80161
Seconding this

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 No.80166>>80167>>80168

>>80163
>If I can really overturn society by wearing dresses, I will buy a dozen right now.
Is this irony, a joke or something like that? That's a serious question.
>>80165
>I like this site but it isn't as great as you make it out to be
Recommend me some websites.

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 No.80167>>80168>>80170>>80179

>>80166
Satire. Using ironic humour to ridicule and make a counterstatement. The photo of a Gaelic man in a traditional kilt is an extra hint. Obviously society isn't so fragile that some people transgressing arbitrary gender norms could have any serious impact. The cultural superstructure of society mirrors its economic base, 'values' ultimately cannot feed your family, progressive nor traditional.
But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living. So if such an absurd thing were somehow possible, it would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals and move towards a better future. So I would buy, like, three.

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 No.80168>>80170

>>80167
>regressive obsolete ideals
Just works in my machine
>>80166
>Recommend me some websites.
The tricky thing is that all "social" sites are either on the level of lainchan or below, when I said it wasn't "as great as he made it out to be" I didn't mean to imply there were much better sites. No social site beats real life or offline solitude, unfortunately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3D1cpm6do

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 No.80170>>80171

>>80167
>Satire.
This was enough, the joke would explain itself.
>The cultural superstructure of society mirrors its economic base, 'values' ultimately cannot feed your family, progressive nor traditional.
As I only have personal points of view and opinions on this, I will not talk about it, opinions are not worth much.

>But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living.

If I had been more "traditional" when I was younger, I wouldn't have gotten into as much trouble as I did when I was young.
Honestly, seeking progress and change at all costs will cost you a few broken bones.

> would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals and move towards a better future.

Ideas rarely die, and neither one nor a million people will change this.
There is no better future, there is only the creation of comfort and corporate and government surveillance.
Only you can do the best for yourself.

>>80168
>No social site beats real life or offline solitude, unfortunately
There are always good blogs or websites, but whatever.

>Luke's video.

Thanks man, I had forgotten about this video.

I haven't used YouTube for a while, I even heard that Luke stopped recording videos.
His videos are good, I think, there are some blogs that are more focused than his.
Anyway, thanks.
God bless you all.

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 No.80171

>>80170
I wrote like an illiterate retard, sorry for that.

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 No.80174>>80186>>80324

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hey lainanons, ive worked on this for the past 3 days. its a guestbook but on a 16x16 grid and you fill it with your own cool images/comment. idk how original it is but i had a ton of fun working on it. i can make it open source too if anyone wants (its built on top of wordpress)

i cant wait till it gets filled, it has to look hilarious lol

anyways linky is https://antisocial.moe/guestbook/ have fun

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 No.80179>>80183>>80185>>80291

File: 1727721138093-0.gif (6.23 MB, 393x480, 131:160, cat skeptical.gif) ImgOps iqdb

https://crystepsi.com/ is already dead? Man, could you spergs make stuff with a lifetime greater than that of a fart in the wind?
>>80158
Lookin' good! Too bad the isWasted font appears blurry here (Firefox 130, Linux), it really spoils the intent.
>>80161
I guess we did, good thing I know about it know!
>>80162
This place isn't the leftypol/tumblr stronghold you think it is, even if there's a strong presence.
>>80167
>But at the same time, the traditions of generations past chain down the living.
Try to not incarnate the proverbial fool in Chesterton's anecdote, anon. People who scorn the long-dead traditionalism and its code barely have an idea of the problems it was made to combat.
>it would be our duty to help rid society of its regressive obsolete ideals
Don't worry, it managed without you. You're experiencing the result now.
>and move towards a better future
Yeah, right. hownew.ru to the XXIth century?

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 No.80180>>80183

>>80159
>A man shouldn't be allowed to wear the uniform of a woman any more than a lieutenant may wear that of a general or a cadet.
This is a stupid analogy. Unlike military ranks, we can still tell who is male and female regardless of what they wear.

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 No.80183

>>80179
https://crystepsi.com is going to move to https://crystepsi.site soon, acording to the owner's discord.
And this wasn't a new site. the old voita (one of the first sites on the webring...) site was a redirect to it
>People who scorn the long-dead traditionalism and its code barely have an idea of the problems it was made to combat.
Traditional values were the thing stopping the problems we see today from happening
>>80180
I agree, it isn't a very good point. I believe traditional clothing and gender roles were just a reflection of tradition and naturally emerging values

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 No.80185

>>80179
There are countless traditions, which no doubt conflict with each other in infinite ways (on more than just the superficial). Unless you are following every tradition you are choosing to reject some, and are also proverbial fool in the analogy you mention.
Personally, any culture past Bronze Age is cyberhumped by default.

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 No.80186>>80187


>>80174
what are your image size requirements?

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 No.80187

>>80186
>
what are your image size requirements?
max 2mb / 2000x2000px / jpg,png only
if they're too restrictive lemme know

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 No.80196>>80197>>80201

>>80101
Why do dog owners fail to understand that some people don't enjoy large hairy animals jumping on and licking them while making loud noises and possibly shaking dirty water everywhere? Plus they damage your house and you have to pick up their soykaf. If you like that then good for you, but there's no need to push it on everyone.

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 No.80197>>80204

>>80196
Why do you dog haters fail to understand that noone is forcing you to own a dog?

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 No.80201

>>80196
Don't hate dog, but urban dog owners are another story. City people have a deeply unhealthy relationship with animals in general; that of mentally stunted children.

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 No.80204>>80205

>>80197
They may not be forcing you to own one, but the way they freak out whenever someone doesn't like dogs as much as they do is annoying.

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 No.80205>>80206>>80210

https://midnightmountain.xyz/webrings
Why was this guy added to the 0x19 copy of the ring if he explicitly says he doesn't want to be a part of it? I liked the site, though
>>80204
>doesn't like dogs as much as they do
There's a huge difference between simply disliking dogs and hating dogs and you soulless dog haters are leaning to the former with these stupid comments.
And yes, people obviously will "freak out" if you hate dogs, in the same way people will freak out if I put orphans or elders on my personal dislikes list.
>but dogs poop dude LMAO
Then don't own one? Dogs are innocent and loving creatures and your rethoric is nonsensical. Your rational for hating dogs for such petty reasons are like hating kids because you don't want to have one, might add that in your next list.

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 No.80206>>80209

>>80205
not to mention dogs are empathetic as fuarrrk, pets can get you through soykaf times in life sometimes.

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 No.80209

>>80206
Dogs are also so loyal its the defining characteristic in thier symbolism.

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 No.80210>>80222

>>80205
you have to click the dropdown
You are allowed to use something without endorsing that specific thing

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 No.80215>>80222

I don't hate dogs themselves. I feel the same way about them as I do about other animals, i.e. they are all right as long as they don't get too close to me. What I actually hate is the type of dog owner that has this starry-eyed Disney mindset about the nature of dogs, and denounces people who don't share this mindset as "soulless" etc. Especially the ones who use annoying Reddit slang.
I'm shifting the focus of my website away from my opinions and towards my hobbies. The site will be more interesting and purposeful that way. Also, at the moment I am too inarticulate to be opinionated online.

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 No.80216>>80218>>80222

>>80213
>finding and discussing good qualities is soulless
What a mindset. Explains alot about his blog though.

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 No.80218>>80222

>>80216
The good qualities are mostly imagined. You don't know how non-human animals think.

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 No.80222>>80226

>>80215
>Reddit slang
Reddit invented the word soulless?
>Disney mindset about the nature of dogs
And what would that mindset be? Disney invented dogs being good?
>>80216
If you meant to quote 80215 I think you misunderstood what he said
>>80218
Why does this matter? Dogs naturally act as if they're extremely loving and loyal creatures. I don't care what they're thinking about and I seriously doubt they have enough brains to be machiavellian, if that's what you mean.
>>80210
... But he clearly states that he doesn't want to be a part of it
>Webrings I'm not in
And apparently he just removed the webring altogheter

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 No.80226>>80227

>>80222
>Reddit invented the word soulless?
No, I'm talking about words like "doggo", "pupper", "fur baby", etc.
>And what would that mindset be? Disney invented dogs being good?
No, the exaggerated perception of them as these angelic creatures who are perfectly innocent, empathetic, loyal, loving and so on.

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 No.80227

>>80226
>these angelic creatures who are perfectly innocent, empathetic, loyal, loving and so on.
They mostly are... pit bulls and other retarded violent dogs are exceptions
>"doggo", "pupper", "fur baby", etc.
It's not dog's fault that there are people who talk like f4gg0ts

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 No.80245>>80250>>80262

homies... this is a webring thread.

but also: to hate dogs is a pretty interesting concept. rn't we, like, basically their God(s)? You know the whole "made in our image" concept. At least as close as we could get to that naturally for the passed thousands of years. To hate them, could, be a form of self-hatred, in a way.

but you c, I wouldn't write that nonsense here. that's what my fugging site is for, yo.

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 No.80250>>80262

>>80245
...what? This just reads like schizo babble.
What is it with westerners and dog worship? I don't hate dogs, but I don't get what's so great about them either. I also don't get why it's so taboo to dislike them, or the ridiculous assumptions made about people who do (they have no souls? they hate themselves? what?). You know how people say "let people enjoy things"? I say "let people dislike things".

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 No.80258>>80262

Shut the fuarrrk about the dogs and make a thread on it.

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 No.80262>>80289>>80291

>>80250
I agree with the let people dislike things sentiment for most things but hating dogs are a whole different thing
>westerners
Shut up azn
>>80245
what's your site? am I the only one who's clueless about who is who in these threads? who is the guy that always attaches cat pictures to his posts?
>>80258
make it yourself f4gg0t

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 No.80289>>80291>>80292

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>>80262
I usually attach cat pictures, have a soykafty blog post in horrible format slightly related to this drama: https://xn--z7x.xn--6frz82g/blog/#1727984982
I think most lainons are just reluctant about namefagging even though it'd make some sense in this usecase. either way it works most posting here doesnt need a link to who is who and people repost their stuff regardless
t. xn-neko

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 No.80291>>80292

>>80262
>>80289
I realise I havent done it all that much in this thread, but I used to more before.
for quick clarity I am not >>80179 but his opinions are fine also so feel free to think so incorectly.
been almost a week without anyone adding a banner common people surely there are lurkers around here that are slacking on finishing up and posting a banner

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 No.80292>>80293

>>80289
How is the ascii art comment in the website code supposed to be viewed? I'm changing width and nothing is happening

>>80291
slacking..

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 No.80293>>80294

>>80292
just click view source, or curl | head -n120 it

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 No.80294

>>80293
nice, looks like my librewolf setup was just fuarrrking some of the spacing.

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 No.80324

>>80174
What a cool website. The concept is also interesting, I had never seen it before.

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 No.80326>>80327>>80348

It just occurred to me. Why doesn't everyone just kind of agree on an ending address for these kind of home brewed sites to make them easier to find randomly if someone were to make a search engine that can filter by domain type? Different topics of focus could all follow the same trends then you can always find what you want and people have an idea what your site is focused on before even visiting it. Is it because some want to be sure their site will work on retro computers so they sometimes turn to the traditional .com .net .org stuff and for others lack of thought on the big picture for a plan to bring back the old internet culture?

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 No.80327>>80328

>>80326
>ending address
You mean TLD? Look into the process of actually making one, specifically the cost Alternatively, everyone could just use alt dns roots like OpenNIC where the process isnt that soykaf, but you will be filtering out anyone who does not know how to change DNS servers (not that much of a problem for here though)

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 No.80328>>80330>>80332

>>80327
Sorry I kind of forget the proper terms for .com .net .org .co.uk .co.jp .xyz .moe .site and so on. I get it using country designator codes for signaling the language of the site though but I just thought it might be helpful if people didnt have to remember so many different ways a sites address might be written where so many have no pattern but could still make it stand out from corporate websites. Am I making sense?

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 No.80330>>80338>>80348

>>80328
Right, but ICANN TLDs are basically always a business venture, and no business will exclusively cater to an audience that categorically opposes copyright and advertising. Theres no money to be made. Either register an OpenNIC domain (.chan seemed cool but it looks like its dead) or give up on clearnet and take the i2p pill like many lains here have done

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 No.80332>>80333>>80334>>80336>>80338

>>80328
Do you even have a domain, mate? People choose classic TLDs like .net because they're cheap and stable, unlike fad TLDs like .io and .xyz administered by get-rich-quick grifters.

Would love a .wired, though.

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 No.80333

>>80332
fug whats the deal with xyz

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 No.80334>>80338

>>80332
Im not too knowledgable about TLD politics, I just bought a .cyou domain because it was cheap a few years ago. Apparently every Indian scammer had the same idea to the point where I had to get my domain manually whitelisted on my university network through IT. Its a cool tld so cant complain.

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 No.80336>>80338

>>80332
.xyz is kino and filters out braindead normal people that unironically think like this. seriously, normal people think .xyz = OMG LE VIRUSZESS. so stupid

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 No.80338>>80339

>>80332
> Do you even have a domain, mate?
Not yet I dont
>cheap
I thought it was other way around for some
>stable
How is this? Is it how some can be recalled? Like all the backlash from .zip TLDs.
>Would love a .wired though.
I concur

>>80330
> ICANN TLDs are basically always a business venture
I meant there already are a few in use seemingly only by smaller sites so you don't have to create a whole new TLD necessarily.
>OpenNIC
>i2p
Id think about it

>>80334
> I had to get my domain manually whitelisted on my university network
This could be a point against what I said since this could also be done on an ISP level where if an ISP or government doesnt like certain topics they could just block the entire TLD. I guess this might be why the idea of having porn sites all be .xxx didnt catch on even though there was push for it.

>>80336
If you want a filter just block mobile browsing. It would make an interesting experiment to see if it makes things like how they were in the past culturally online. Anyone who wants to use mobile still can but has to know how to use a user agent switcher at least.

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 No.80339

>>80338
>block mobile browsing
That would be just inconvenient for mobile users, xyz is a better filter because all it does is filtering idiots, even PC idiots. It also looks/sounds cool and is a virtue signaling among independent web enthusiasts because of Luke Smith, it's similar to what ".moe" is to anime users

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 No.80341>>80342>>80345

Filter this, filter that, shut up already. Make a site worth a damn, optimize the experience for both desktop and mobile if you feel like it, otherwise simply target desktop. Don't be a pansy and just get a .net domain, they can be registered (and later transferred) pretty much anywhere. You'll actually have a chance at running a mail server without getting immediately blacklisted, plus you're less likely to be associated with the stereotypical techbro.

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 No.80342>>80343

>>80341
>you will have a .net and you will like it
>you will conform to normalglitterboyry and you will like it
glowiefriend detected. do the exact opposite of what this guy say

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 No.80343>>80344

>>80342
a rare TLD is not a substitute for substance

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 No.80344>>80346

>>80343
and why not have both...?

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 No.80345>>80346

>>80341
>.net
Lame
>changing your natural actions to not fit an imagined negative stereotype
Double lame. If you arent a techbro it will show the moment your website loads.

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 No.80346

>>80344
>>80345
sounds like posers

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 No.80348

>>80330
I2P pill popper here. Don't forget about Tor since you're going down that road! These alternate protocols to the clearnet are just that. A means of connectivity. With Google quickly nosediving you need to have redundancy and other avenues for people to find you. It isn't enough to get an address on these alternative networked sites and go "Done! Where's my traffic?!?". You also have to talk to others on the protocol to be known. It's exactly like coming to this forum and talking here. Dropping a website and running away doesn't accomplish a whole lot.

>>80326
I am probably one of the few here with a .COM address. I've chosen .COM as a salute to an old Netscape bug where if you type in a domain name all by itself netscape will alphabetically resolve.COM first instead of taking you to a search engine. I'm laughing at the .com with you. Because there is no safety guards ever put in place of those addresses, unlike the Registrar of.XXX did require you to show proof of ID and business that you are indeed in the porn industry before you are allowed a domain address with them.

There -used- to be importance with TLDs if you looked through the lens of SEO junkies where an .EDU referencing your work meant validation. But in this age of AI grey goo you can throw that out of the window.

At this stage of the internet game. I look at TLD for function over form. So if .COM means I'm a normal person corpo schitzo anti-cool-kid then I shall continue laughing. Because from the clear-net perspective, it simply works. I am blogging while selling nothing on a .COM and don't care. Alongside my .onion and my .i2p addresses.

Spend cash to get a TLD. Or not, and exist on alt protocols. Just get a website going!:D

Server protect you.

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 No.80349>>80356

.com .net .org are timeless classics, you can't go wrong with them

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 No.80356

>>80349
I don't like that you have to doxx yourself to legally control these (but that's true for any second level domain). I would honestly just go for 3rd levels instead with much more lenient registrations.

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 No.80376>>80377>>80421

Finally crawled the webring to find all the interesting and not-dead feeds, collected more than twenty! Found out that a few other websites bit the dust: alephzero.neocities.org, b4rkod.net.tr and gamajun.neocities.org.

I must also say that having an (interesting) blog without a RSS/Atom feed should be a crime. Thinking mostly about mm4rk3t.neocities.org and maybe a bit vim user.net.

Also read https://0x19.org/posts/2024-04-03.php and the conclusion made some sense. Personally, if I were to reboot the lainring, I'd ask for people to at least have the intention to keep it alive before showing up and choose a category between personal websites with updates (thus a feed) and others (link repositories, service, shop window for cool CSS/JS, etc...).

By the way, any opinion about the readability/objective design of https://world-playground-deceit.net/? Did some stuff to improve it (font-size +1, line-height 1.3, some stuff right aligned, etc...), but I'd like some external feedback.

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 No.80377

>>80376
alephzero is now aleph-0.neocities.org
>lainchan webring is ~1/2 abandoned neocities web pages
I blame poor user neets including myself

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 No.80421

>>80376
This reminded me to check my RSS XML, turns out I made a syntax error and didn't notice, so thanks for the indirect reminder.

In regards to webring state, I think the issue is that everybody's taking the wrong approach. As 0x19 pointed out, why bother maintaining a page when you can put it up on neocities for free and advertise your social network site profiles. Just having a site is not enough to keep most people engaged. There's two potential solutions:

1) Don't make it a "personal" site, as in just to advertise your online presence. Focus it on a theme people would find interesting and keep it up to date, just like fansites of the early Web did. Or hell, upload your works on it and do it consistently, and only do so on the site itself, no mirroring to social media! It's not always a numbers game, put some passion into it.

2) Don't *just* make a site, handle the entire infrastructure. Take it from me, I invested into the arcesia.net domain and a killer VPS deal to move away from my friend's domain (superglobalmegacorp.com) and internal network into something I could control from top to bottom. I regularly use Wireguard and SSH tunneling on that server for accessing my home computer from work or anywhere else in the world, and that's just *one* of many things I do with this infrastructure. Playing around with Web and network technologies is fun, productive, and sharpens your skills, so I actually have an incentive to keep my eye on everything. This is a solution that 0x13 proposed in the linked article, and I fully agree that it would be the most effective way to liven up the webring.

As for your site, I love the dedication to keeping the CDE aesthetic, just please recolor the links on the left side menu. They blend too much with the blue background color.

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